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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2006 at 11:02
I'm glad to have seen ELP live in 1997 at a clssic-rock-open air in Dortmund. When I came ( I had travelled by train from Freiburg ) they just had started and the chords of "Touch and go" came to my ears... still love it, as I do love "Paper Blood" and "Daddy" but of course, most of all, I have to love them for their elder work. Think that "Brain Salad Surgery" is their best studio-outing, but "Trilogy" is nearly as fine and I still think of "Tarkus" as a masterpiece. I do love Greg Lake's X-mas- song, too, as I always did with "C'est la Vie" since I was a child.
ELP were very, very special and I have to be in the right ( heady ) mood to put on thier cds but when I am there's nothing better
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2006 at 17:21
I just need all of you to watch these... Emerson is a true jazz pianist HERE!!! this is amazing boogie
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2006 at 19:12
I watched the video. Thanks for the link. But Keith sounds like his left hand only has three fingers. Is this true?
 
I have another question. Do you think Carl Parlmer tunes his drums. If yes to which key?
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2006 at 19:47
ELP is the one band that I regret never having seen in their prime. I never saw Genesis, I never saw Floyd, but the one I really wanted to see was ELP (Saw Yes and KC so they don't count!) .
 
ELP's studio albums never quite did it for me though  - always a live band to my mind. "Welcome Back My Friends" for its faults is still the best live prog album I've heard. "Aquatarkus" is one of the great live performances IMHO!!! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2006 at 22:10
Originally posted by spleenache spleenache wrote:

I watched the video. Thanks for the link. But Keith sounds like his left hand only has three fingers. Is this true?
 

I have another question. Do you think Carl Parlmer tunes his drums. If yes to which key?

 

 

    
I can't really tell in which key, because I'm no drummer... I don't know how they tune each head
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2006 at 03:44
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

My appreciation of ELP started in 1977 when they came back with Works Volume One.Although I didn't like that album I started to go back and get the earlier albums.As a teenager I played Tarkus countless times,especially the live version,but Trilogy and BSS had all that I wanted as well.


ELP were innovative in using the synthesisier and keyboard in prog.They had the the most exciting drummer in rock music and one of the best singers as well.We are talking a real supergroup.One with substance and unbelievable talent.For me their crowning glory is Brain Salad Surgery.Dark lyrics and flowing passages of music that left most of the contemporaries behind.Having hit upon something it seemed that the seeds of their own self destruction were sown.They were always seeking for something new to do but later projects although brave (in the case of Works and the orchestral tour) where not really what the fans wanted.

 

At their best ELP could combine jazz,classical and rock music..play it at break neck speed and make it look easy.They took the sythesiser and made it their own personal palyground.They broke down barriers with their sheer exhuberance and total inability to recognise any limitations.They were arrogant and pompous but able to do things that other bands could not do..and didnt those other bands know it! They raised the benchmark according to their own talent ..not to where what others thought it should be.They are progressive rock!  


Ditto, ditto, ditto. Very insightful and well-put commentary!
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2007 at 12:45

Happy new Year to all in this thread Hug

And what about the 2 ELP cover compilations:
 
ENCORES LEGENDS AND PARADOX (Magna Carta label bands and personel)
 
FANFARRE FOR THE PIRATES (Mellow Records italian label and bands)
 
Any comments?
 
Now I´m listening the american ELPproggers Cairo; what´s youfave album from them?
The 1st one is worth alone for the fantastic track Ruins of Avalon Gate Clap
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 05:27
Originally posted by elpprogster elpprogster wrote:

Happy new Year to all in this thread Hug

And what about the 2 ELP cover compilations:
 
ENCORES LEGENDS AND PARADOX (Magna Carta label bands and personel)
 
FANFARRE FOR THE PIRATES (Mellow Records italian label and bands)
 
Any comments?
 
Now I´m listening the american ELPproggers Cairo; what´s youfave album from them?
The 1st one is worth alone for the fantastic track Ruins of Avalon Gate Clap
 
 
I've got both.Encores Legends and Parodox is part of a series of tribute CD's that was also done for Genesis,Yes,Tull,Floyd and Rush.Very professionally done but a little bit boring.My favorite track there is Toccata which features some 'fun and games' from Jordan Rudess.
 
Fanfare For The Pirates is much more intersesting as some of the bands have put their own interpretation on the tracks without trying to replicate them.The version of Karn Evil 9 3rd Impression by Finnish techno band Matrix Mind is my favourite although there also good versions of The Sage and Jerusalem as well.The version sof Tarkus are a bit boring though.The best tribute version of tarkus I'v heard is by Japansese trio Ars Nova which features on the Keyboards Triangle album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 14:27
Quite good view, Richardh Clap
 
Who do you think has the best solo career:
 
E, L or P?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 15:21
Originally posted by elpprogster elpprogster wrote:

Quite good view, Richardh Clap
 
Who do you think has the best solo career:
 
E, L or P?
 
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I like Emerson's film soundtrack music.The 3 CD set 'Emerson At The Movies' which features remasters of Inferno,Nighthawks and Best Revenge is very good to listen to.
 
I don't listen to Greg's 2 solo albums very much ..too AOR for my taste.
 
Carl's own band is great to see live but he doesn't really have a solo career.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 17:33
i only have pictures at an exhibition, but i freaking love that album and am going to the store tomorrow as they have been at the top of my "get more of" list for a while.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 20:53
I always loved this band since 1973 when my cousin Jimmy made me discover them. At that time, I was only 13 years old, but I liked it at first earing. I saw ELP live two times; once in 1977 at the Olympic Stadium with the orchestra, and a second time in january 1993 on a smaller venue. Finally, I saw Carl Palmer Band playing this year in may on a small venue and it was great.

ELP music makes me feel good. It's great because there are many variations in their music; classical, jazz, rock, folk, blues sometimes, pop rock etc... Their music is very colorfull and surprising. Sometimes, it's gentle and tender, and suddenly, it's agressive and fast. (Trilogy, the song is a good exemple of what they can do...).

I grew up with the progressive music like GG, KC, Genesis, PF and so on, but ELP were my favorites and they still are. Today, I can realize that they were very innovative for the time, and ahead of their time. Their music did stand the test of time. It's true because the younger generations still listen to ELP as I can read on this site.
My highlights this year: meeting Carl, worked for him and had some chats with him. I hope someday to meet Greg and Keith. Who knows ...     

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 20:58
ELP's best moment.. Trilogy, from Trilogy the album, 2:55-4:48.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 21:32
Originally posted by red.sector_a red.sector_a wrote:

i only have pictures at an exhibition, but i freaking love that album and am going to the store tomorrow as they have been at the top of my "get more of" list for a while.


Pictures at an Exhibition is arguably one of the best live albums ever, I usually don't like live albums that much, but it rocked


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"Pictures at an Exhibition is arguably one of the best live albums ever, I usually don't like live albums that much, but it rocked"

Have I got something for you!  That's my favorite album of all time and I have just found a new live 1977 concert recording of Pictures!

Listen to a ELP full 1977 concert online!  Mid South Coliseum, 127 minutes. From the Bill Graham concert archives!  Free to listen!  Features Tarkus, Pictures, and more.

If you haven't heard this yet- don't wait!  I can't believe how different this version of Pictures is compared to the live album- Keith is making very different sounds from the moog!

Hundreds of other rare concerts from the Bill Graham archives and they are also adding King Biscuit concerts as well!

Concert Vault:
http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/

Enjoy!  (let me know if you did!)

Mike


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2007 at 02:20
Here's some ELP appreciation for ya Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2007 at 03:30
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Here's some ELP appreciation for ya Wink
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2007 at 04:17
Everything up too love beach is fantastic, BSS is ofcourse the mile stone but the rest is allso very good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2007 at 06:17
Indeed, their solo careers don't seem to have taken off. Emerson's 'Honky' is quite fun and enjoyable enough yet I've not really heard anything else, but Greg Lake's solo career is rather bland stuff which you could hear from any run of the mill heavy rock act, imho.

ELP as a band are FAR more varied than anyone gives them credit for. Take Pictures At An Exhibition- you have folk, heavy rock, a touch of jazz, not to mention the obvious classical inspiration.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2007 at 07:16
Originally posted by Mike777 Mike777 wrote:

"Pictures at an Exhibition is arguably one of the best live albums ever, I usually don't like live albums that much, but it rocked"

Have I got something for you!  That's my favorite album of all time and I have just found a new live 1977 concert recording of Pictures!

Listen to a ELP full 1977 concert online!  Mid South Coliseum, 127 minutes. From the Bill Graham concert archives!  Free to listen!  Features Tarkus, Pictures, and more.

If you haven't heard this yet- don't wait!  I can't believe how different this version of Pictures is compared to the live album- Keith is making very different sounds from the moog!

Hundreds of other rare concerts from the Bill Graham archives and they are also adding King Biscuit concerts as well!

Concert Vault:
http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/

Enjoy!  (let me know if you did!)

Mike


Thanks, Mike! I had heard about Concert Vault but did not realise it had an ELP concert. Really enjoyed listening to it. Thumbs Up


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