Libertarian Thread #2: We Shall Never Die!

Isn't it sad that today "growing up" means accepting that you are no longer a mommy's son but a state's son?

Besides just being stupid, he also grossly misrepresents Rons views and does not seem to understand how the legal system works. 

Negoba wrote: Not that it really has anything to do with anything, but being an Ob/Gyn is one of the most miserable occupations I can think of. At least for nearly every doc my age or younger. Don't know what it was like in Paul's day.   Being a doctor screws with your head enough without doing that job.

Gynecology isn't terrible if that's all you do.

Obstetrics is a miserable job these days. Childbirth takes a long time. When it goes well, it doesn't really require medical help. But when true medical intervention is needed, it's often NOW. The stakes are high.

There is a clash between the needs of the majority having a normal childbirth and the few that modern medicine is lifesaving. Right now, the norm is to induce childbirth early under spinal anesthesia because it is the easiest way to control the situation.

The best units have a doctor (or several) present 24/7 and one or several midwives present 24/7 along with an RN to every 1-2 patients. That is just unbelievable resource demanding. The docs that work these shifts may easily deliver 20 babies in a 24 hour shift. Catch and run is a norm.

I will say that a good OB nurse can be one of the best blessing the world can give you.

The problem is the culture clash between a more naturalistic model vs a medical / scientific one. The ob/gyns are expected to come to the rescue when things go bad, whether they've agreed to or not. If you're at home without much monitoring, things can get past fixing and yet it's the deep pocket (the ob/gyn's insurance policy) that is taken to court to satisfy a grieving family.

Either on purpose, stupidity (or just going with what you hear) Paul's view always seem misunderstood.

All the time I hear "lol he wants us on the gold standard" or "wow yeah what a nut hes gunna put us on the gold standard again"  (KoS if by some chance you see this you've done this a couple of times on FB!!) and I would agree, I don't want us to go on the gold standard. BUT...that's not quite accurate. I don't believe he ever said he would "put us on the gold standard" but have that as an option if people chose to do so.

Sigh....the misinformation. I'm all for disagreeing but people rarely even hear the true position.

Or how "each state could have its own currency" I once heard, that may be my favorite gross misrepresentation.
Much as I want the Jersey snookie to be worth half a Pennsylvania redneck and 3 New York mobsters. I just can't believe the "news" we hear!

yeah what good is class anyway?
Seriously, I've taken a few economic classes and look how I feel about stuff LOL


(it's because I was barely awake for most of them, and I fear our leaders were in the same boat!)

edit: If wiki can be trusted, kinda cool/interesting that the Democratic NH primary had Ron Paul come in second with 4% of the a write in vote?


Edited by JJLehto - January 12 2012 at 18:26

Tomorrow I'll be heading out to spend a week or two in the land of freedom, aka Pennsylvania (apparently, since it houses 3 of or members). Maybe being there again will finally push me over the edge and I'll go anarcho capitalist, or insane. It could be either since the Lancaster area isn't exactly brimming.

Pat best have those cheesesteaks and beer ready!

Appropriate on this day: