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Tom Ozric
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Mike, you know I have over a hundred RPI albums, never one to rave (yeah, right), but I suppose I am more at home with Canterbury, Space, and Magenta. Yep, bless that gorgeous Christina Booth's vocal chords (and looks).
Getting back to RPI, I worship all the precious ones - Balletto, Banco, Campo, QVL, Alphataurus, Locanda, Pierrot (Gudrun is the better of the 2 ! ), Corte, Semiramis, Maschera, Cercio, Trip, Agora, Perigeo ..................yes, I'll sooner rave about Magma, Ange, Pendragon and Hidria Spacefolk before RPI, but me, always biting off more than I can chew, I just have to limit my focus on a more 'narrow' field. And I'm sure you are more overwhelmed than me |
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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As much as I love all those other genres, there's no doubt that the Italian stuff is frequently the most precious to me, Tom. It's the most lavish, sophisticated and at times daring prog you can find, and so many of my favourties prog albums come from that country.
Meh, still not going to get me to love that `Gudrun' nightmare ever....I've wasted years being patient with it. Maybe if they'd ditched that horrendous female wailing I'd be a little more patient with it, but it totally breaks the album for me. If I recall, there's barely anything resembling an actual tune on it either, just fragments of experimental sounds. I can't for the life of me work out why it's considered such a masterpiece...if it was thought of as a `curious, daring, challenging experiment that's interesting to explore' sort of thing, I'd be more understanding! I'll take the subtle, fragile beauty of the first one any day. |
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Finnforest
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I like Odissea!
How do you lads feel about Opus Avantra? I love their albums but I notice very little love around the PA community for them. |
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hellogoodbye
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We all love her, Jim.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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That's one I'm only barely aware of, Jim. I recognise the cover of the first album, but haven't heard the music in at least ten years. Will have to explore Youtube for some clips for a reminder, I think!
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Guldbamsen
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I really dig the first couple of Opus Avantra releases Jim with the debut being my fave. I think I may have heard Strata at some point, but I'm not entirely sure - could've been during a get-together with one of my old friends whom I've introduced the more strange and leftfield acts to. The thing is, often when we spend time together it's over large quantities of smoked whiskey and perhaps a little space tobacco, which means some of these evenings have a tendency to feel a little blurry in hindsight |
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Guldbamsen
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Oh and I listened to Poa's Blocco Mentale twice again today
I'm at my parents place and this album feels like the perfect music to have playing while I'm chopping wood in the backyard. Odd perhaps, but then again I am a pretty odd bloke. Michael: I know how you feel about Gudrun (damn you!!!!!), but do you feel the same listening to say Cos (providing you know of them of course)? I've always felt that the two female singers share a mutual love of vocals that sound like the Blairwitch come alive. |
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Dave, I know and really like the first Cos album (`Viva Boma'' if I recall?), but it sure wasn't love on arrival! Took many spins before I clicked with it. But I will get back to `Gudrun' at some point. I do like other more experimental Italian albums (for instance, maybe that `Pholas Dactylus' one comes to mind), but I think it's the ones that mix that element inside a framing of decent tunes, etc, will keep my interest longer. Anyway, I'd like some opinions on this. Here is a CD I bought recently that I have been dying to hear, seeing as some consider it to be a bit of a classic. Now, bear in mind I'm cranky after several days in a row on screwy night-shift hours (plus it was daylights savings ending tonight, so we actually had to work an extra hour! ), but I played this for the first time in the car on the drive home.... And to say I was underwhelmed would be an understatement...I was expecting some lovely Italian prog jewel, instead it seems like fairly straight-forward pop/rock music with nice playing and nothing more. Any opinions, people? Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - April 04 2015 at 18:06 |
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AEProgman
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^ First off Michael and the den mates, Happy Easter! Have not been in here in a while as I have been in a retro, crossover world of late.
I have not heard the first album of IL Volo so I cannot comment, but I do like the 2nd album, Essere O Non Essere. It is very jazz electronic oriented. Oh, the a fore mention of Blocco Mentale Poa became one of my favorites after a long road trip a few years back in which I had a play list of all RPI. Chopping wood or a road trip, Poa would fit the bill . Have not tried Opus Avantra yet, it sounds tempting but dangerous as I have a love hate relationship with Opera... In the Spirit of the holiday, good time to listen to Latte E Miele's, PASSIO SECUNDUM MATTHEUM: THE COMPLETE WORK!!!
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Lafayette Assburn
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Latte Miele complete work is the best thing to come out for the whole of the year.
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Sagichim
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Mike I have this album for about two years now maybe and I gotta say, it's not the progiest album this genre has to offer that's for sure, I think its strength lies in the melodies. I always considered it to be an album with 8 solid songs, there's a lot to enjoy really, first of all the material is good, the melodies are good and the playing and sound is really crisp, it's not straight forward at all and I actually never thought of it as poppy. I guess it will take a few spins for the magic to kick in, I like it better than their second album Essere O Non Essere. Enjoy it buddy!
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coasterzombie
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Thanks for the recommendation! Checking out the live stuff on Youtube as we speak. Regarding Il Volo, give it some time. It is one of those albums you have to sit down and really let it sink in. Preferably on vinyl! I especially love Bob Callero's bass playing on that one. I so enjoy all of your recommendations and experiences, keep 'em coming.
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Sagichim
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Indeed Bob Callero's bass is really good. I got to know Il Volo in the first place because of Bob Callero that was previously with Osage Tribe. And this is for our Aussie brother Anybody's into this beautiful album??
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Gentleman, thank you both. I promise I'll give the Il Volo debut plenty of proper listens. My initial dismissal was all based on a half-concentrating listen on a busy drive home with barely any sleep!
I should also say sorry that sometimes my opinions and comments on certain things Italian prog related can be a little blunt! I certainly don't mean them to ever come across as arrogant or aggressive, not the case at all. ***** Coaster, great Le Orme `Florian ' review from you on the front page too! I seem to recall Jim wrote a terrific one a while back too. It IS a great album, one that I don't listen to all the time, but when I do, it's very special. May do so again in the next day or two ***** Thanks, Sagi, I'll spin that clip when I'm home from work! Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - April 06 2015 at 11:19 |
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tszirmay
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Il Volo's debut is a delight. My fave tracks are the opening e-piano rumble on Come una Zanzara, with its diabolical bass line and the sublime Il Calore Umano, owner of a gorgeous melody and a slick guitar solo from Alberto Radius. Its not as poppy as you may think, it needs more time to blossom.
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Guldbamsen
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I have a tendency to jump straight into Il Canto della Preistoria, whenever I listen to Il Volo's debut It's the "angry duck" sound of the moog that does it methinks. Man I love that track!
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TeleStrat
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^^ I like the second release, Essere O Non Essere? just as much as the first.
This band along with Arti + Mestieri were among the first Italian bands that I got into back in the seventies.
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TeleStrat
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I looked up Frenante Sezione on Amazon and there was only one CD available
called Metafora Di Un Viaggio. Can anyone tell me about this CD?
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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TeleStrat, I was on one who added the band to the Archives, as well as posting the CD details and review, which you can read here, should explain a bit more about it! http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1391622 Sagi, Dave - this might actually be an album that appeals to you both, it's got a definite less-polished, genuine 70's sound to it. It's a really fine disc, a quiet little RPI achiever! |
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Pastmaster
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I'm curious, how come Italian prog is in it's own separate sub-genre?
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