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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: December 10 2011 at 12:55 |
And that completely ignores what I said.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The Doctor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
Posted: December 10 2011 at 13:02 |
How did that completely ignore what you said?
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 10 2011 at 13:44 |
The single point I was making was that you wouldn't be sticking it to oil CEOs, you would sticking it to poor and middle class people who depend upon the mobility afforded to them by cars to actually make a living and have food on the table.
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The Doctor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
Posted: December 10 2011 at 14:00 |
Of course there would be some hardship on those who are poor and middle class. But, the worst offenders that I see on the roads are usually driving fancy, expensive cars (you'd think people that paid a lot of money for a car would be more careful with it, but I guess they just think they're too important to follow the rules of civility). However, there are lots of poorer and I'm sure middle class bad drivers as well. Of course, as a hard core lib, I do think that we as a society should be spending more money on public transportation (both for environmental and economic reasons). With good public transport systems in place, I don't see that it would take food from the tables of the poor and middle class. It would certainly be more of an inconvenience though. But if you can't drive with concern for those on the road with you, you deserve to be inconvenienced, whether you're poor, rich or somewhere in between.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 10 2011 at 15:31 |
You're coming off as someone who wants to cast people to hell because you got cut off this morning.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Finnforest
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 16913 |
Posted: December 10 2011 at 15:38 |
Don't we all....
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: December 10 2011 at 19:15 |
I'd like to give a thumbs up for head of the Georgia Libertarian party for his stance on the new HOT lanes and HOV lanes as well. He took the position that both should just be eliminated and let all who travel on the highways be able to use those since we as taxpayers paid for it. I was trying to look up the editorial but haven't put my finger on it. I did find this:
Are you a Libertarian? If you are, Edited by Slartibartfast - December 10 2011 at 19:20 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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manofmystery
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 00:10 |
Have taken that little exam before. It's very basic but that's the point, I suppose. Haven't found a better one (that takes less than an hour to take) yet.
Here are the Ron Paul portion of tonights debate:
Didn't catch the rest so I'm hoping T will pop in here, at some point, with any non-Paul related high(low)lights.
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Time always wins. |
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 00:24 |
THERE WAS A DEBATE TONIGHT? WTF? WHO PUTS A DEBATE ON A GET DRUNK AS HELL NIGHT?
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 00:26 |
^ Truefax, according to me.
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 00:29 |
Stoney me and you should go grind on the dance floor to some mindless college rock indie music.
BOOM BOOM BOOOOM BOOOM BAH BAH BAH OOOOOOOO YEAH |
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 01:08 |
Nothing wrong with college indie rock k
Dance floor? f**k that sh*t. I chill in da shady bars. The window lets you see the feet of people walking by, the seats are church pews, it is dark and smoked filled with pool tables in the back. Hell yessssssssssssss |
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manofmystery
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 01:16 |
And everybody knows your name?
And they're always glad you came?
JJ!
How's life treating you Mr. Sweden?
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Time always wins. |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 01:25 |
Sadly not, and I will never hang around in Boston long enough for them to know me!
nah Boston is a great city. Technically, it's Mr Finland After all, I didnt just make this sh*t up OR name it after whatever his face is from that band... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JJ_Lehto I am doing fine. The free market (aka Craigslist) got me a very large, hi def TV with all that cool jazz for $50. Was weird as hell having to meet this guy at his house, at night, to get it but I brought a tough guy with me. Then I got pretty drunk but not nearly as much as Pat. |
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 07:00 |
f**k I also missed the debate.
And I wasn't drunk. |
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32530 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 07:31 |
I watched the whole thing.
1. Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich got most of the attention and sort of made buffoons of themselves. 2. Michelle Bachmann tended to speak in platitudes while criticizing the President and anyone who even so much as looked at Obama. She harped on how important it was to be a "consistent conservative," and kept knocking "Newt Romney" but could say nothing against the doctor standing beside her. 3. Rick Perry just came across as a seedy politician. 4. Rick Santorum did an admirable job and was well-spoken. 5. Ron Paul was the only one who stuck to the rules of the debate, didn't substitute substance with personal attacks, addressed every question, and generally kicked ass. |
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 07:42 |
Only one of these is a truly bad thing. |
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 07:43 |
That's surprising. |
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 08:04 |
They came out in support of family values which is a good thing because I hate families.I haven't yet made up my mind about Family Guy yet though I am pretty convinced his testicles are his chin.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: December 11 2011 at 08:24 |
I just finished watching the debate. I think Romney and Perry's closing remarks about Ron Paul were pretty telling and sort of sum up what just makes him different from the rest of the candidates.
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