Petition to get Jon Anderson back into Yes |
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Triceratopsoil
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
Posted: March 23 2013 at 21:11 | ||||
Implying Yes is musically relevant at all these days, with or without him.
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ExittheLemming
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11415 |
Posted: March 23 2013 at 22:05 | ||||
I happen to agree with you but let's not get all contemporaneous here: all you need for relevance is sincerity in my book (and Yes ain't had that for over 30 years, hence my comparing them to that of a franchise) I'm inferring you think old men in prog are irrelevant, which is at best fatuous. |
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: March 23 2013 at 23:18 | ||||
Exactly, also called the recency fallacy. I watched John McLaughlin and Zakir Hussain live last year and there were many others in my age group (mid 20s) in the audience. Please don't try to tell us we were watching something 'irrelevant' just because some of their pieces go back 30 years. They are wizards who've got better instead of getting rusty with time and many young musicians would find it hard to match the depth of their repertoire. As for Yes, they are a touring machine now and have yet to convince me they are truly committed to recording new material. Not that they have to, nothing wrong with that if they don't have much anything of significance to say in a new album anymore. But that makes the consideration of band composition a little insignificant. Jon Davison is a good singer and since Yes are tribut-ing themselves for all practical purposes, why not. Edited by rogerthat - March 23 2013 at 23:20 |
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Finnforest
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 16913 |
Posted: March 23 2013 at 23:29 | ||||
I love Yes and Rush and Zeppelin and Who and Stones.......but guys, all of yas......it really is time to do something else.
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zumacraig
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 08:53 | ||||
Rush is still good. Ged can't sing anymore, but they can still rock. The Who still sound ok live, but I was over them in the late 80s. Zep has kept their legacy, as far as I'm concerned. Their reunion show was excellent and Plant really has grown as an artist every decade since he began. As far as Yes goes, I'm just amazed at how these dudes have the energy to live on the road and play these same old long-ass songs every night. Not to mention, the people going to see them.
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Moogtron III
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
Posted: March 24 2013 at 14:32 | ||||
From what I heard from his other solo albums: most of the stuff I don't like either. I do like quite some stuff he did with Vangelis though, but I get the impression that Vangelis is the main composer in their duo projects. I don't think Jon or Rick will ever return to Yes on a more permanent basis. Both had health problems which keeps them from the long tours with Yes. They tour together but that is probably much less intense. Maybe sometimes there will be reunions, that's another thing.
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Chozal
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 14:39 | ||||
Did Yes produce any good albums / a regular output of albums recently ? Seems to me more of a live nostalgia act ...
Unrelated note : Thanks KC for not turning into that |
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Earendil
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 17 2008 Location: Indiana, USA Status: Offline Points: 1584 |
Posted: March 26 2013 at 00:14 | ||||
Jon Anderson should not go back to Yes.
Survival and Other Stories is his best album since Change We Must, and the other things he's put out like Open are great. He's releasing Olias Pt 2 sometime in the next few years too. Edited by Earendil - March 26 2013 at 00:21 |
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doublerainbow1975
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 05:54 | ||||
I think Jon being on his own has been great for him. He seems free to pursue his own projects and collaborations with artists, and doesn't care about the big label - or selling out arenas.
I have seen YES many times, but Jon's solo show last year was as powerful as any of those shows - because it was small and because he brings you right there - to that wow moment, with just a few chords and his voice. His vocalized version of the WURM section in Starship Trooper was unbelievable. With a little bit of 'scat singing' he covers all of the melodic layers that the bass guitar and key occupy. I guess I say let Jon be Jon and let him keep exploring . . . he is a force all his own. |
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moshkito
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 09:05 | ||||
Bands that are doing something different, and just as good ... not necessarily better! But if the context means that yesterday's were good and today's is trash, then your line would be very incorrect in my book! There is just as much good work going on today as YES then!
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Earendil
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 17 2008 Location: Indiana, USA Status: Offline Points: 1584 |
Posted: March 26 2013 at 15:47 | ||||
I really agree with this. I haven't seen Yes, but I saw Jon on his solo tour, and it was wonderful.
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dennismoore
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 16:31 | ||||
Well said zuma,
Putting aside the YES, JA polls for a second, having read some comments here, I would humbly submit:
To all the young fascists here who seem qualified to tell the musicians in YES what to do, I have a question:
Have you championed your lives so excellently that you are now capable to tell grown world-class artists what to do with their lives??? I have a simple suggestion for you: If you don't enjoy what YES are doing these days, don't buy their records or go to their concerts. I doubt the band, YES(or anybody else really...) gives a rat's bottom what you think anyway.... Right...
As far as the petition for Jon, I quote part of it:
"By continuing to tour as "YES" with other lead singers, the band is misleading its fan base and tarnishing their legacy...."
Right, I am sure this will have a positive effect on Steve, Chris & Alan and will also help Jon Davison & Geoff, by telling them they are tarnishing the legacy. Brilliant! This is exactly what is needed. Chris & Steve & Alan like any seasoned
VERY sucessful band leaders, have large ego's and are probably laughing at or ignoring the clueless super-fans who submitted this poll.
This poll smells like something that the self-annointed YES elite fans at alt.music.yes would concoct, Good luck with that lads...
To qualify my position, YES are my fav band of all time all I would love it dearly if Jon Anderson rejoined them once more., though I do have a question for the JA worshipers and current YES haters....
If we were to have celebrated ABW&H(I saw the tour and enjoyed it) that means we should accept YES without Squire(for me that sucked big time...). Why can't you enjoy YES without JA??? JA is not blameless in this whole mess, by the way...
For my part I haved loved every YES tour since 1977(though the Trevor Rabin stuff has not aged well...)
What YES is doing now, touring those three particular records in totality, is pretty freekin amazing.
Why can't we all just get a Long Island Iced Tea???
I can't wait for a DVD of the current tour. By the way, the Fly from Here suite, was awesome in concert last summer,
Jon Davison is a real gem, stop the hatin and start appreciatin!
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"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 16:35 | ||||
Jon has to get in to get out, getting up then getting down hasn't been working out...
Edited by Slartibartfast - March 26 2013 at 16:36 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Earendil
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 17:03 | ||||
Much needed. Hopefully the band regards the petition as a silly attempt by fans to live in the past, or something along those lines.
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: March 26 2013 at 22:52 | ||||
Agree completely.
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infandous
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
Posted: March 27 2013 at 09:48 | ||||
I just wrote a long post that the forum decided wasn't "authorized", so I lost it all.
I'll just sum up quickly then: I personally have zero interest in a bunch of senior citizens reliving their glory days (albeit, in a slow and plodding fasion) to a crowd of other senior citizens who can't move on from the past.........but none of them care what I think, and rightfully so. The petition is going to get zero notice from the band or Anderson, so I think it's pretty silly and a waste of time. |
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dennismoore
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Posted: March 27 2013 at 11:28 | ||||
A Ha! God got you and deleted your little(prolly pretty big, actually..) rant.
I know you don't dig current YES and you'd rather see a 70 year old Robert Fripp hang upsidedown and jam with Phillip Glass, fine. I just have a question for you since we are both guitar players...
What chance do you or I have of playing Awaken at even the "slow and plodding fashion" you allude to?
Oh, also, have you ever contemplated an Avatar update?
Love ya!
Dennis
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"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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dennismoore
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Posted: March 27 2013 at 11:32 | ||||
You could have just said "rogerthat".
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"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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infandous
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Posted: March 27 2013 at 11:39 | ||||
As I said, I have great respect for the members of Yes, especially Steve Howe. He was a huge influence on my guitar playing........to the point that I could probably pull off a very passable (though certainly not better or even as good) version of Awaken. But maybe I'm being immodest As to Fripp and Phillip Glass........no thanks. I'd love to see Fripp with a new version of King Crimson though (as long as it wasn't a nostalgia act trotting out aging past members......Fripp himself being the exception, since he's aged much better than most prog rock stars of the past). |
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dennismoore
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Posted: March 27 2013 at 13:14 | ||||
You can pull off the solo in Awaken? Dude! I am not worthy!
He does that on a 12 string you know.. I could do most parts of it but that blazing speed run that ties it all together is
beyond me, and I have no trouble playing, Clap, The Ancient(acoustic part) and Mood For A Day. You rock skippy!
As far as Fripp goes, that would be a tough comparison, he has always kinda "hid" behind other guitarists.
Steve Howe, Gary Green, Steve Morse, even Pete Townshend all did the "heavy lifting" (guitar playing)onstage by themselves. Basic rock bands like Aerosmith, Def Leopard or Judas Priest pack a bunch of guitars on stage, but I never understood Fripp's need for guys like Adrian Belew(who I think is phenomenal). And don't say it "adds" to the music. Multi guitarists sonically all kinda merge live, its so hard to hear them indivudally...unless you do the Pink Floyd live thing where each guitarist plays a discreetly orchestrated part....
No Fripp bashing here, lets just keep him aside from single guitar player bands.
As far as Fripp being fresher.... Fripp has never been fresh or old. He always plays the same kinda "pattern rock"
or "math fusion rock" with other guitarists. You seen one Fripp show you have seen them all! Oops, now I have done it!. All the Fripp fans are gonna be out for blood now...
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"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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