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JJLehto
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:47 |
Oh and as for Schumi and his......championship deciding collisions....
Racing is racing. I believe Senna once purposely crashed Prost, thus keeping his points lead safe.
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CCVP
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:49 |
JJLehto wrote:
Oh and as for Schumi and his......championship deciding collisions....
Racing is racing. I believe Senna once purposely crashed Prost, thus keeping his points lead safe.
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You know, if you said this here in BR 10 years ago you would be beaten to death.
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:52 |
CCVP wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Oh and as for Schumi and his......championship deciding collisions....
Racing is racing. I believe Senna once purposely crashed Prost, thus keeping his points lead safe.
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You know, if you said this here in BR 10 years ago you would be beaten to death.
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10 years ago? My uncle would kill him right now.
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CCVP
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:57 |
Same with my father, but, you know, the mass histeria has passed. Besides, Brazil is a much less wild country nowadays.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 19:30 |
CCVP wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Oh and as for Schumi and his......championship deciding collisions....
Racing is racing. I believe Senna once purposely crashed Prost, thus keeping his points lead safe.
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You know, if you said this here in BR 10 years ago you would be beaten to death.
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Well good thing its not Brazil 10 years ago! And not a knock on him. As I said, Senna is one of the top 5 drivers of all time. But it is what he is, he did exactly that... This is racing, not high society tea drinking!  So I lol a bit when people hate on Schumi for doing the same thing. I'll admit twice was a bit ballsy of him though  And Prost may have been great but sounds like an ass.
Edited by JJLehto - March 02 2011 at 19:31
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 19:33 |
Prost means "stupid" in Romanian. I never saw the guy racing, but I suspect I would have never rooted for him
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 19:40 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
Prost means "stupid" in Romanian. I never saw the guy racing, but I suspect I would have never rooted for him
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haha! That is great! And of course I never saw him live, but from all I've read, well he left the team pretty much so he wouldn't have to be with Senna anymore. When he did come back, he had a clause in his contract saying Senna could not be his team mate so he was stuck on a lesser team. Just sounds like a whiny, ya know.
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sleeper
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Posted: March 04 2011 at 08:11 |
JJLehto wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Prost means "stupid" in Romanian. I never saw the guy racing, but I suspect I would have never rooted for him  |
haha! That is great!
And of course I never saw him live, but from all I've read, well he left the team pretty much so he wouldn't have to be with Senna anymore. When he did come back, he had a clause in his contract saying Senna could not be his team mate so he was stuck on a lesser team.
Just sounds like a whiny, ya know.
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McLaren and Honda where openly favouring Senna by the end of 89 (the Honda motorsport boss even told Prost that they were giving Senna a higher spec of engine for qualy) with title deciding collisions between them at Suzuka in 89 and 90. The fact that they almost ended up hating each other for a few years is not a surprise when seen in that light, they were by far the best two drivers of the era and theirs no way their personalities would have let them get on. The irony is that after Prost retired for 94 there was signs that they might have become friends.
Anyone seen the new Senna documentory, from what I've heard and the clips I've seen its looks brilliant?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: March 04 2011 at 08:18 |
I am curious though: do Webber and Vettel get on? They seem complete opposites. I guess they do if they're having another season as Team Mates.
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sleeper
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Posted: March 04 2011 at 08:28 |
I think the way Webber put it was that they work together well enough, but they'll never be mates. The problem in that team is that some of the Austrian contingent are pro Vettel and would rather see Webber subserviant to him. Christian Horner, the team boss, doesnt agree and Deitrich Mataschits (RB owner) only cares that a Red Bull wins.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 04 2011 at 14:08 |
Oh wow didn't even know all that. I just figured they were the 2 best and as you said, competition just got too heated and became hatred. Indeed, they would've probably hated each other anyway. I always read that in 94 Senna did reach out to Prost and they were giving up the past tension. In terms of heart wrenching its up there with Senna carrying the Austrian flag in honor of Ratzinberger. What a horrid race weekend
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 04 2011 at 14:08 |
sleeper wrote:
I think the way Webber put it was that they work together well enough, but they'll never be mates. The problem in that team is that some of the Austrian contingent are pro Vettel and would rather see Webber subserviant to him. Christian Horner, the team boss, doesnt agree and Deitrich Mataschits (RB owner) only cares that a Red Bull wins. |
I also believe that's more or less the situation.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 03:28 |
Bump I am very glad to see that the USGP is slated to be back on the Calender in 2012!  Remember hearing rumors that a track would be built in New York (which of course had me greatly excited) but it appears they are doing it in Texas...... Whatever, I've always wanted to go and now I have the means (money and car) to do so. The track looks cool, different and typical Tilke has a ton thrown in it. Long sweeping straights, varied corners. We'll see. On that note: Shame to see still no French GP. Granted Magny Cours was abysmal.... A few years ago I came up with a 20 race schedule (now not so ridiculous) that had certain GP's alternating tracks, and European GP that would be in a different location every year. This allowed traditional European Races, expansion for future, the USGP and a way to still visit some classic tracks all within a 20 race schedule. I wanna be head of the FIA!
Edited by JJLehto - March 08 2011 at 03:31
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sleeper
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 09:49 |
^The Austin track looks good, especially since they're building it in a place that has hills, so it wont be flat.
I dont know why Bernie doesnt just have the Paul Ricard circuit sorted for racing again, it would be an excellent venue for the French GP. I guess he couldnt squeez the $$$ out of it since he owns the track.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 12:35 |
Can you take Matt with you, Brian?
Thanks.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 13:12 |
Damn Sleeper, need to listen to TPC now  And yes, quite hilly. Also the overall height difference over the track is supposedly going to be the third greatest only behind Suzuka and Spa!
James wrote:
Can you take Matt with you, Brian?
Thanks.
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He always seems game to do things, is just stuck there. But if I'm driving all the way to Texas why the hell not get him?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 13:14 |
Exactly but I fear he won't be able to afford it.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 13:24 |
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Exactly but I fear he won't be able to afford it.
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I probably won't be able to  I remember a long time ago, when they went to Indy, asking and people said it'd be $100 at least. Plus gas (alot) and I guess somewhere to stay. oi....
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rushfan4
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 13:26 |
They used to run a Grand Prix in downtown Detroit every year, but that ended a number of years ago. I never made it to any of those races.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 08 2011 at 13:29 |
rushfan4 wrote:
They used to run a Grand Prix in downtown Detroit every year, but that ended a number of years ago. I never made it to any of those races. |
That they did. Do you enjoy racing? If not probably for the best you didn't  Just wiki'd it, looked like a decent track actually.
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