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Posted: May 24 2005 at 01:39

GOD, if he/she exists, is surely behind ALL music

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 01:40

Except nu-metal.

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 01:43

Am a DEVOUT Atheist.

'Testimony' almost made me puke. I loveD Spocks bread and that so called God of yours ruined a great band.

Will NEVER EVER understand any organization that believes it is OK to kill people, for priests to be moved around to avoid prosecution for child molesting, then allow the guy that did the moving to vote for his churches leader (Mr.Pope). Not say anything against blowing up abortion clinics.

But worst of all; say that evolution did not occur, dinosaurs did not exist (even though fossils exist) and that some 'super person' was responsible for all this?

Sorry, as always, it makes no bloody sense. Then to dedicate your life to this 'imaginary' being and write songs, raise your hands in the air and talk to this being is utterly confusing to me.

Ok, ranted enough.

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 01:45

Please, Don't quote one line from a song that is obviously about the story of ADAM & EVE (see the Bible)read the Lyrics .

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 01:45

transend wrote:

Am a DEVOUT Atheist.

'Testimony' almost made me puke. I loveD Spocks bread and that so called God of yours ruined a great band.

But worst of all; say that evolution did not occur, dinosaurs did not exist (even though fossils exist) and that some 'super person' was responsible for all this?

Sorry, as always, it makes no bloody sense. Then to dedicate your life to this 'imaginary' being and write songs, raise your hands in the air and talk to this being is utterly confusing to me.

Ok, ranted enough.

Way to be an ignorant prick. You just lumped in several different religious sects and stamped the same belief system on all of them. Neal Morse has no dealings with the pope, no desire to let innocent die, no love for child molesters, yet you dump him in with that group?

LEARN TO DEBATE YOU USER OF FALLACY!

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 01:46

Dazo wrote:

Please, Don't quote one line from a song that is obviously about the story of ADAM & EVE (see the Bible)read the Lyrics .

Show me the lyrics, then. THE SONG IS NOT ABOUT THE STORY OF ADAM AND EVE.

That's hawt.

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 01:50

Surely you have the cd which is supplied with the lyrics to the whole album?

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 01:51

As long as the bands make quality music they can believe in god all they want, i personally think religious subjects can add alot to a song.

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 01:52

The majority of my CD collection was stolen in January. Which was actually somewhat referred to earlier in the topic, so you can't accuse me of making that up. So I invite you to LISTEN TO THE SONG. "Eve would claim her right to say no / But she was dressed like a hooker, reading go, go, go" Another part of the story from the Bible?

Oh, another song from the album, "A Vampire's View"... another Bible story?

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 02:00

Quote from ADAM & EVE - "Adam would hope for a talk with god,with his half eaten apple,waiting for the flood.Eve would admit they were all but innocent and did appologize if god was offended."

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 02:03

What is Starlight Man about?

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 02:04

Dazo wrote:

Quote from ADAM & EVE - "Adam would hope for a talk with god,with his half eaten apple,waiting for the flood.Eve would admit they were all but innocent and did appologize if god was offended."

^^^^ which is about the closest the song comes to touching upon story, basically to give the name something concrete.

Considering Starlight Man features the line "I can be your backup plan", it's not likely about God.

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 02:11

If You Can quote one line (wrongly by the way)I will use the Quote on the rear inside cover.

"We are stardust,we are golden and we got to get ourselves back to the garden" - Joni Mitchell 1969.

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 02:14

That's a Joni Mitchell quote! Don't tell me she's a Christian artist too now.

The Flower Kings are spiritual, very much so, I've said it before. But they don't promote any particular religion, and Roine has stated he doesn't belong to any, either. Do you honestly believe that Adam & Eve is a pro-Christian telling of the story?

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 02:19

The Flowerkings used that quote on the rear inner cover of the cd booklet.

Maybe I am wrong and the garden in question is madison sqaure garden?

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 02:21

Yes, the quote is used in a Flower Kings cover. I believe that not only is it used to refer to the Garden Of Eden (to tie in with the album's title), but also to refer to what Mitchell was referring to, the Garden of Eden SYMBOLICALLY, as in, our natural roots, inner peace.

Or is A Vampire's View about Lazarus?

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 02:28

No it's a song about the folly of being a sinner.

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 02:32

Is it? Is it really? They make it sound so sexy... and the soundbite with the girl taking off her shirt... and Daniel Gildenlow being ****ing hot... Roine said it was inspired by Anne Rice's vampire novels.

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 02:40

YES IT IS REALLY!Could we please get back to my original Question.

Dazo wrote:

What with some artists now preaching through their music,e.g Flowerkings,Niel morse,etc.Do you think the usual meaniningful lyrics associated with prog will fail to get through to the discerning?

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Posted: May 24 2005 at 02:46

Give me some sort of proof, ANY sort of proof that A Vampire's View has anything to do with sinning.

Roine says:

"A Vampires View" is obviousy a song about the world, seen from a Vampire point of view, a bit inspired by Anne Rice's "Confession of a Vampire". It is telling a gloomy story of a very sad and isolated soul that is forced live in the darkness, feeding on the blood, flesh or soul of others and hate every minute of it, but can't get out and cannot see an end to the grind either. A Smeagol or Gollum if you want or a Zombie too. At the same time, in parallel, it is a song about a possible "bloodsucker", a successful businessman or an entire empire or political system that have to walk over dead bodies to increace his/it's profits or power, finding himself loved and missed by no one in the end, isolated in a sinister world of profit and corruption only. It is indeed lonely at the top.

As for your question, I think that TFK's lyrics are as meaningful as any, and there is absolutely no preaching going on, they're simply spreading a message of love. Or do you disagree?