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The Anders ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 02 2019 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3535 |
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And now for Pram which I admit I have not heard before either.
"Radio Freak in a Storm". Now this is definitely interesting. Mysterious and avantgardistic sound aesthetics with somewhat mumbling vocals. For most part I can't hear what she is singing, but it doesn't really matter to me. I love that there is an out of tune violin (if that is what it is). "Blue" is no less creative. I don't know if I can truely explain the music, but there's clearly some jazz in it. The edginess almost becomes kind of comical at times, but that is not necessarily a negative thing in my world. Fascinating in any case, and right up my alley. "Serpentine". This one is more melancholic. I can somehow imagine Beth Gibbons of Portishead performing it. There's a similar mood to some of the songs on Dummy, but or course the style is different. "The Doors of Empty Cupboards" is another case of sound wizardry. Very fascinating. "Mother of Pearl". At first I wondered if it would be a cover of the Roxy Music song, but it is clearly not. It kind of reminds me of Björk who also has quite a lot of songs in the relatively rare Lydian mode (major scale with a major 4th). "Penny Arcade". The deep synth drone somehow makes me think of a boat motor due to the tremolo. If we just go by the composition, it's acually quite straight forward. The combination of that, and then a soundscape that is anything but straight forward, I really like. Why have I not heard this band before...
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THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN REEDITED @ TCat - Mike: The songs I posted are all part of a live album, where the applause at the beginning and at the end of the songs take up a certain amount of time: the gross time of the songs therefore exceeds 25 minutes but the net time turns out to be around 24 minutes and 30: okay with you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear friends, I have long been undecided as to which side of "album" put here to listen to you, and when in doubt I chose a live album that I know you have never heard, and that perhaps will make many of you turn up their noses. It is an album recorded in a church, with solo singers, a choir, and some traditional instruments from Italy and which mixes religious songs from Catholic masses with traditional Italian songs and with songs written by CCCP group and CSI group of which I have already posted some songs in two previous polls: in the first poll I posted the song "L'ora delle tentazioni" by CSI, in a more recent poll I posted the song "Tomorrow" by CCCP with Amanda Lear. CSI are the spin-off of CCCP, two groups characterized by the same singer (and author of the lyrics) and the same guitarist. The singer of these groups, Giovanni Lindo Ferretti, then continued with another group and collaborating with other artists on projects completely outside the mainstream, including this one, "Litania", assembled with the multi-instrumental musicologist Ambrogio Sparagna, author of the arrangement and, in some case, of the music. Taken from the album "Litania", by Giovanni Lindo Ferretti (vocals) and Ambrogio Sparagna (accordion and arrangements) Litania narrates the passion of Christ from the point of view of Mary, his mother, and combines songs from the groups of which Giovanni Lindo Ferretti was the singer, church songs, and songs from the Italian popular tradition, from various regions but above all from the south, and in fact you can hear a tarantella rhythm both in the first song and in "Santo". CREDITS: Giovanni Lindo Ferretti: vocals Ambrogio Sparagna: accordion. Vox Clara Quartet: Anna Rita Colaianni: soprano Arianna Rumiz: contralto Vittorio D'Amico: tenore Pietro Albano: baritono plus: Lorenzo Esposito Fornasari: vocals Clara Graziano: accordion, vocals, tambourine, castanets Erasmo Treglia: hurdy-gurdy, shawn, violin, ocarina, bark flute, baroque oboe. 1) L'orologio della passione - The watch of the Passion (traditional) Music and arrangement by Ambrogio Sparagna It tells, hour by hour, the passages of the passion of Christ, and in the end, when the music becomes cheerful (a tarantella) they sing: "After seven days he was resurrected". The singers are the tenor Vittorio D'Amico and Giovanni Lindo Ferretti, who alternate. 2) Sonno sonno - Sleep sleep (traditional, sung in the Calabrian dialect by the contralto Arianna Rumiz) Arrangement by Ambrogio Sparagna. O sleep, sleep, that you come from the mountain... 3) Madre - Mother (written and published by CCCP: Fedeli alla Linea. Music written by Massimo Zamboni and lyrics written by Giovanni Lindo Ferretti). New arrangement by Ambrogio Sparagna. Lead vocals: Giovanni Lindo Ferretti. The original lyrics were: Mother of God and his children Mother of the fathers and the mothers, Mother, oh mother, oh my mother, My soul turns to you. But you can hear, included in these verses, the liturgical litany in Latin of the invocations of the rosary, where the various names of the Madonna are recited: "rosa mistica, turris eburnea, turris davidica, domus aurea, foederis arca, ianua caeli, stella matutina" 4) Santo Liturgical text of the Catholic mass. Music and arrangement by Ambrogio Sparagna. Vocals: Vox Clara Quartet and Giovanni Lindo Ferretti Holy holy holy is the Lord, God of the Universe, the heavens and the earth are full of your glory, Hosanna in the high heavens. 5) Madre Maria, il Lamento - Mother Mary, the Lament (traditional) Music and arrangement by Ambrogio Sparagna. Lead Vocals: Giovanni Lindo Ferretti. It tells of Mary's lament during her son's passion, the most heartbreaking piece is when she says Kill me 6) Intimisto - Intimisted (Music by CSI, lyrics by Giovanni Lindo Ferretti) Arrangement by Ambrogio Sparagna, lead vocals Giovanni Lindo Ferretti You steal the time You steal my energy Don't listen to the moan Don't listen to the call You crack my courage You frustrate the wait time The evenings that I wait for you, the afternoons that I wait for the evening You steal me in the morning That I wake up alone and it's no good Destroy my happiness because they are little things in your eyes You fill some happiness swollen excessively And I have to leave her who was fine silent and alone And your eyes steal the light from me so that you can shine in mine Then there is nothing left and you leave Then there is nothing left and you leave Consume my pain dull and slow Consume me Edited by jamesbaldwin - November 30 2020 at 16:51 |
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I don't have a problem with that Lorenzo. After all, the music doesn't exceed the 25 minutes and we can fast forward past the audience noise.
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Discovering some new bands and artists again... As I usually like to listen to albums in their entirety, this poll gets us more into the bands/artists each of us brings up here... Again, great idea, Mike! My first take on things:
TCat: Never heard of My Morning Jacket. Well, I guess, because in a way their first songs have something very familiar sounding over it it is very accessible with a kind of typical 90s (pop-)rock sound, but with their own original and melodic brand on it: very American, some country flavor, but tightly grounded in melodic rock. Even their odd take on Prince is is quite captivating. With the typical vocals and the instrumentation they create a recognizable style of their own. My favourite track would be Smokin' from Shootin'... Snicolette: What? Nickie goes electronic? That's what I asked myself when the first track of Azam Ali started playing. Never heard of her either and you're taking us on an interesting trip into Persian electro and traditional folk (making me think a bit of some of Clannad, but than the Middle-Eastern version of them)... I like their particular mix of traditional instruments and electronics with the percussion. Each song is a very pleasant listen but I think a whole album would be a bit too ambient for me. Her Ode to Melancholy though is sheer beauty! Logan: Now with Pram we arrive in other territories, more avant-garde and experimental. They have something intriguingly unsettling in their music. The squeeky dissonant violin in the first track puts me off a bit, but all the other tracks captivate me with their quite unique style: rythm, melodies, sounds and noises, the trumpet... The singer, she has something Hammill-like over her, which goes well with the music, actually. At some moments they also make me think of Gastr del Sol. Of these, Blue, the dreamy Serpentine and Penny Arcade are my preferred tracks. Very nice discovery overall! The Anders: C.V. Jørgensen brings us into late 70s, early 80s pop-rock. I don't think I've ever heard something of him before but he too arrives to give an immediate familiarity to his music, in my ears. Very pleasant laid back songs regarding the music, but his lyrics go far beyond the conventional pop songs (thanks for giving us the translations! It is nice reading along with the songs). Although all songs here have very much of a pop(-rock) vibe to me, his singer/songwriter qualities put them above mainstream. This is typically music for me that I propably won't dive into, but when it comes by on the radio I would say "this sounds great, who is it?". Edited by suitkees - November 29 2020 at 07:30 |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Thanks for this assessment - it covers quite well what I tried to do with my "album side". The influences of American music (Americana, country, blues, rock...) are quite clear in Kat Onoma's music, and I like the sometimes more experimental take they bring on to it. Driving force of the band was Rodolphe Burger, the singer and guitarist who is largely responsible for that very recognizable sound and who is having quite a prolific career with his solo outings and collaborative projects since Kat Onoma disbanded. And I think you won't be surprised to learn that he issued an album with Velvet Underground covers (you can listen to it here), a band he admires.
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Mathman: Shawn Smith is another artist I discover here. Nice "album side", starting with a piano-voice dominated track and ending with piano-voice again. Two great songs! The funk of 20th Century doesn't make me think that much of Prince but more of other 80s funk acts. I very much like the minimalist bass/drum/guitar groove on this one and I prefer this one over the much more Prince-like Battle Flag. Suffering is maybe a bit too conventional as song but he delivers it very well. Wrapped in My Memory and 20th Century are my preferred songs here. jamesbaldwin: Again in completely different territory. I won't "turn up my nose". This is music I wouldn't delve into normally, but I am sure I would be completely captivated if I assisted to it live. The production here renders quite good the acoustics of the recording space, the church. Especially the vocals come out very well, but it sounds very good overall (I listen to it through my hifi where the tube amplifier does much justice to this recording, I think). Some tracks have much of a troubadour feel to it but the added chorals on most of the tracks make something else out of it. The first track and Madre Maria are not the most convincing to me, but with Sonno sonno (great female voice!), Intimisto and especially Madre it becomes very special. The human beat box on Santo adds something very modern to this sound. His deep voice on some of the tracks is beautiful. Sonne sonne, Madre and Intimisto are the stand-out tracks for me. Lewian: We want more! ![]() |
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I envy how all of you post so easily.
I can't make up my mind what artist to present.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6048 |
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I think the first thing I heard from her was "Portals of Grace," which are all medieval pieces, so I then sought out everything she did and own most of it. That and "Elysium for the Brave," are my two favourites, but I find something to like with every release. And really enjoy the live videos, I'm hoping she will come back to Portland, where I missed seeing her a couple of years ago. She and another favourite, Mary Fahl, were playing the same night, both at small venues and I chose to go to Mary Fahl, as she's based in New York and doesn't make it out west often, indeed had never played in Portland at all, as a solo artist. Still wish I could have gone to both! I am glad you enjoyed her.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6048 |
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Here is my take on Lorenzo's selection(s), still awaiting more from Lewian....
Lorenzo: No
turned up nose here! Giovanni Lindo
Ferretti & Ambrogio Sparagna “L'orologio della passione” Concertina-like instrument opens, with the
vocalist singing, appropriately, passionately.
Sorry, I know you told me before what the concertina-type instrument is,
but I can’t recall the name. This
reminds me also of a sea or village sort of song, I really love whatever those
horn-like instruments are.
Beautiful. Song shifts into a
sort of hornpipe, I would call it (although it may not be the technical term),
fast-paced and jolly feeling. “Sonno
sonno” Mournful pipe opens with a
gorgeous female vocal, full in sound, with a bit of echo. Love the sound of this, not sure where it was
recorded, but this song sounds very like in a church, at least with the effects
(or maybe not). Note: Now I read the
ending! It was in a church. 😊 Sounds like an early music piece to me, esp with the ending. “Madre” Again, the
lord-I-wish-I-could-recall-the-instrument-name-instrument. Deep male voice now, with strings coming
in. Obviously a song to the singer’s
mother, emotional. Really pretty
interplay with the instrumentation. Now
a chorus of vocals, female and male chime in.
“Santo” A fast romp, and very
short, I was expecting something different from the title…very joyful, with all
of the singers again. “Madre Maria, il
lament” Here is another sea-faring sort
of sound, to start. I was again
expecting perhaps a more mournful tune from the name, but I think the lament
part will show in the lyrics. Is he
perhaps trying to bargain with her, in remorse for misdeeds of some sort? “Intimisto”
Here is the deep-voiced male singer again, with the chorus joining in,
softly. Feels like a prayer to me. Pretty playing on the concertina-like
instrument, in a brief solo. When the
chorus rejoins, it is full and swelling.
The male vocalist solos for a bit, joined again by the chorus, then this
back-and-forth repeats several times, to a very emotional ending by the male
vocalist. Very moving. |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Sounds like an accordeon to me, but there are different types of it so Lorenzo may have more precisions... |
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Nickie: Azam Ali - The music is very relaxing, somewhat meandering, but in a good way, especially since much of it is done with her amazing voice. It flows like a slow river, taking her time to allow the listener's soul to fall into the music. I love the fact that she takes her own native styles and mixes them with Celtic and Spanish styles which makes her very unique. The tracks that stood out the most for me were the ones from "Elysium for the Brave". They did tend to have a little more substance to them and felt like more completely realized songs, though I did like the strong Spanish influence of the "Portals of Grace" tracks. Meanwhile, the live track at the end has a more psychedelic feel to it. Excellent choice!
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Thank you, suitkees!
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Greg : Pram - Very interesting and nice with a melancholic sound. Love the dissonance in the trumpet, which is present a lot of the time. The first track, "Radio Freak in a Storm" is probably the most different from the others with the almost Bjork-like feel and the use of strings. The others that stood out was the more upbeat and child-like sound of "Mother of Pearl" and the steady crawl of "Penny Arcade". Nice music for a rainy day.
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Thanks to you, Nickie! Here's to you the credits: Giovanni Lindo Ferretti: vocals Ambrogio Sparagna: accordion. Vox Clara Quartet: Anna Rita Colaianni: soprano Arianna Rumiz: contralto Vittorio D'Amico: tenore Pietro Albano: baritono plus: Lorenzo Esposito Fornasari: vocals Clara Graziano: accordion, vocals, tambourine, castanets Erasmo Treglia: hurdy-gurdy, shawn, violin, ocarina, bark flute, baroque oboe. Edited by jamesbaldwin - November 29 2020 at 10:30 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Ah, yes, bandoneon, it's the Argentine accordion, the most important instrument to play and dance tango. Instead, when you have talked about horn-like instruments, in Litania there are - "GHIRONDA", translated is hurdy-gurdy, - "CIARAMELLA" a particular kind of pipe, translated is shawn (I hope the translation is correct!) Edited by jamesbaldwin - November 29 2020 at 11:54 |
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![]() Ah, yes, bandoneon, it's the Argentine accordion, the most important instrument to play and dance tango. Instead, when you have talked about horn-like instruments, in Litania there are - "GHIRONDA", translated is hurdy-gurdy, - "CIARAMELLA" a particular kind of pipe, translated is shawn (I hope the translation is correct!) ![]() |
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The most recent Radian album, On Dark Silent Off of 2016, is probably the most accessible one, if only by Radian standards. There are some song-like structures and some music-like sounds ![]() |
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This will be the last Radian entry, as it lands me between 20 and 25 minutes. The Chimeric album has three mini-epics of 8 minutes plus. This length suits them well, it allows for some quite postrocky development as in Subcolors (actually I realise that this one, the most conventional of the three mini-epics, is probably more accessible than the one I posted from On Dark Silent Off, but so be it). Pretty relaxed this one. Oh, and I can give you a live video of this one. As I have now closed my nomination process, I've got to say that this was really difficult, as consistency is one of Radian's great assets. I tend to love all tracks on all albums and wouldn't find a natural favourite except if I have to. I have posted those I posted for a reason, but if somebody told me, everything posted up to now doesn't count and we have to find some other 20-25 minutes, these wouldn't hardly lose any quality compared to what's up now.
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