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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2015 at 02:19
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

By some amusing coincidence while clearing out the shed today I found an old ELP tour programme that belongs to my wife (from the days before I knew her... some dark secrets are best kept quiet methinks)... it's undated but I believe it comes from 1972.

Now, why should this warrant a mention in this thread you may ask... well... it's one of the strangest tour programmes I've ever seen...

I've found a pdf of it on the interwebs for all to read: www.timstinchcombe.co.uk/synth/broch/elp_300dpi.pdf

Smile "One day, we'll look back on this and smile."
 
All ELP haters will enjoy reading it. (actually I quite enjoyed it as wellLOL)
 
I guess we have to assume that one of two things were at play here
a) Dean's theory that this would seem all very amusing and ironic one day
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b) the band actually had a sense of humour and didn't take themselves as seriously as is portrayed ( obviously I subscribe to this)
 
Truth is probably a bit of both. Emerson did have that comment 'The guy wears an armadillo costume while strutting about, must be some sort of ass' ( or something like that) framed and nailed to his toilet wall.
 
Of course everything ( apart from reviews) was going well for ELP at the time so 'Option C' is that they didn't care that much . However I know that Emerson ( and probably the other 2 as well) were not happy with a lot of the reviews so hey ho..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2015 at 03:32
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

By some amusing coincidence while clearing out the shed today I found an old ELP tour programme that belongs to my wife (from the days before I knew her... some dark secrets are best kept quiet methinks)... it's undated but I believe it comes from 1972.

Now, why should this warrant a mention in this thread you may ask... well... it's one of the strangest tour programmes I've ever seen...

I've found a pdf of it on the interwebs for all to read: www.timstinchcombe.co.uk/synth/broch/elp_300dpi.pdf

Smile "One day, we'll look back on this and smile."
 
All ELP haters will enjoy reading it. (actually I quite enjoyed it as wellLOL)
 
I guess we have to assume that one of two things were at play here
a) Dean's theory that this would seem all very amusing and ironic one day
or
b) the band actually had a sense of humour and didn't take themselves as seriously as is portrayed ( obviously I subscribe to this)
 
Truth is probably a bit of both. Emerson did have that comment 'The guy wears an armadillo costume while strutting about, must be some sort of ass' ( or something like that) framed and nailed to his toilet wall.
 
Of course everything ( apart from reviews) was going well for ELP at the time so 'Option C' is that they didn't care that much . However I know that Emerson ( and probably the other 2 as well) were not happy with a lot of the reviews so hey ho..
Ermm "One day, we'll look back on this and smile" is the more common English translation of "Haec Olim Meminisse Iuvabit" and sometimes as "One day, this will be pleasing to remember". There is no irony in my use of the more common translation.

I'm not sure why they misquoted it as "Haec Olim Iuvabit Meminisset" or used a more pretentious translation and then embellished it as "One day it will us Great Pleasure to Remember these things", but I guess that's symptomatic of what ELP did with "the classics" Tongue

The final two pages of quotes (titled: "What do you think of Emerson Lake and Palmer?") are obviously humorous made-up joke responses as self-parody which suggests that ELP didn't take the reviews seriously at all either. That the bad reviews are liberally quoted in an official tour programme that was sold to fans suggests that they wanted the fans to laugh at the "joke" too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2015 at 03:56
^ I just wish that those who routinely lambasted the trio for their alleged dead-pan earnestness would all read this programme and reconsider. It's perfectly OK to loathe ELP's music but calling them 'humorless' is very far wide of the mark indeed...Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2015 at 05:53
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

^ I just wish that those who routinely lambasted the trio for their alleged dead-pan earnestness would all read this programme and reconsider. It's perfectly OK to loathe ELP's music but calling them 'humorless' is very far wide of the mark indeed...Unhappy
I agree - given that this tour programme dates from 1972 and some of the scathing reviews are even older, it is clear that (even) back then ELP were not taking themselves as seriously as their critics where.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2015 at 09:52
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Now, why should this warrant a mention in this thread you may ask... well... it's one of the strangest tour programmes I've ever seen...

I've found a pdf of it on the interwebs for all to read: www.timstinchcombe.co.uk/synth/broch/elp_300dpi.pdf


This is priceless !! I've never seen anything like it. I have to agree with some of the above posts that the band mates themselves must have had a great sense of humour to put this out. Anyone have more of this type of stuff?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 07:14
One of the funniest lines in prog rock appear in 'Officer and a Gentleman':

And for years thought central heating,
Was for just old people's homes


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 07:45
Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

One of the funniest lines in prog rock appear in 'Officer and a Gentleman':

And for years thought central heating,
Was for just old people's homes



It always amazes that it apparently took two people, Lake and Sinfield, to come up with the lyrics on Love Beach.LOL The below from Taste of My Love is another corker (complete with comedy "rampant stallion" synth effect from Emerson):

Call up room service
Order peaches and cream
I like my dessert first
If you know what I mean

Yeah, taste it, taste it, taste it
Around the maze of pleasure
To the gates of pain
You're driving me insane

Take all you need from the taste of my love

I want to love you
Like nobody ever loved you
Get on my stallion
And we'll ride

I want to hold you
And enfold you beyond reason
I want to dynamite your mind
With love tonight

Go down gently
With your face to the east
The sun may be rising
But we haven't finished the beast




Edited by Cactus Choir - April 07 2015 at 07:50
"And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!"

"He's up the pub"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 08:18
Yes, forgotten about that one - it's a cracker!  Reminds me of that 'peach and peacock' line in 'Pirates'.  It's the way he tells 'em
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 11:17
Carl Palmer's post-ELP band PM seemed to use the Love Beach lyrics as something of a template. They got into trouble with a few PC rock critics for the song Do You Go All the Way whose lyrics went something like "Do you go all the way, I just gotta know. Before I blow all my dough." Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 11:30
Whether intentional or unintentional the line that amuses me is from a Lake lyric, and I'm sure we all know which one I am referring to when I question Greg's sudden request for a ladder. I guess we'll never know why the acquisition such an item of equipment was so imperative or exactly what use he intended it for. Perhaps the lost love who was subject of that particular song was considerably taller than he, maybe he was proposing to use it to reach the moon mentioned in an earlier verse or the more depressing notion is that the sadder and madder he became the more the thought of using it to attach a rope to the bough of a tree weighed heavily on his mind... all these things are possible, and more besides. It could be just a nonsense line designed to bemuse and confuse the listener, or it could be as some have suggested, just a witty riposte that Mr Emerson shouted out in rehearsal. With the scallywags that are Emerson, Lake and Palmer we can never be sure.

Edited by Dean - April 07 2015 at 11:37
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 11:31
Originally posted by Cactus Choir Cactus Choir wrote:

Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

One of the funniest lines in prog rock appear in 'Officer and a Gentleman':

And for years thought central heating,
Was for just old people's homes



It always amazes that it apparently took two people, Lake and Sinfield, to come up with the lyrics on Love Beach.LOL The below from Taste of My Love is another corker (complete with comedy "rampant stallion" synth effect from Emerson):

Call up room service
Order peaches and cream
I like my dessert first
If you know what I mean

Yeah, taste it, taste it, taste it
Around the maze of pleasure
To the gates of pain
You're driving me insane

Take all you need from the taste of my love

I want to love you
Like nobody ever loved you
Get on my stallion
And we'll ride

I want to hold you
And enfold you beyond reason
I want to dynamite your mind
With love tonight

Go down gently
With your face to the east
The sun may be rising
But we haven't finished the beast


Confused Shear poetry.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 12:04
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Whether intentional or unintentional the line that amuses me is from a Lake lyric, and I'm sure we all know which one I am referring to when I question Greg's sudden request for a ladder. I guess we'll never know why the acquisition such an item of equipment was so imperative or exactly what use he intended it for.


To be honest, as silly as the lyrics sounds, I always imagined it as a bit of a metaphor for wanting to climb out of the pit of despair that he was obviously in.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 13:49

Interesting the obsession with the ladder lyric when you have 'Even Though Your Flesh Has Crystallised , Still You Turn Me On' or 'Seven Virgins and a mule , keep it cool , keep it cool' or ' No one ever gonna buy it from a two faced mother' or 'She did a thing to my thing like its never been done before'. Seem to be a lot of ELP lyrics that are cheesy and sleazy (I'm a poet and I know itSmile)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 14:59
Excuse me if I fail to find cheesy and sleazy lyrics to be humorous. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 16:24
Much like my beloved heroes this thread has taken a left turn and headed over the cliff. I was originally looking for humour "About" ELP or at their expense, not within ELP's body of work. But...whatever Dead

Ok, Love Beach is exempt from that comment...It's a freakin' joke for the most part LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 17:07
It's humorous to me that Keith Emerson was the subject of a People magazine article in the '90s(?).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2015 at 01:14
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

It's humorous to me that Keith Emerson was the subject of a People magazine article in the '90s(?).
 
you might like to let other people in on the joke (?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2015 at 04:25
I remember discussing 'Love Beach' on the back seat of the bus going to college and one of the punks piped up 'ELP is to your lot wot the Boomtown Rats are to our lot'!  I thought that was quite funny - and true (at the time).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2015 at 05:25

Not sure that Lake's lyrics are helped by some lyrics sites on web.

 
Endless Enigma has line "I'm tired of hypocrite freaks" that many lyrics sites have somehow transcribed into "I'm tired of liver for freaks".
 
Have to admit was a huge fan of BSS when it first came out. Used to play endlessly on an old second hand mono portable gramaphone player. Very occasionally to increase Emerson's virtuosity used to increase speed from 33.3333(rec)  to 45 or 78. Added something to Tocatto and Karn Evil 9 Pt II, but made Lake sound like a cross between a Castrato and Pinky & Perky!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2015 at 01:14
^ reminds me that I played Keith Emerson's Nighthawks LP at 45rpm by mistake when I first got it but it took me 10 minutes to realise! ( this is honestly true LOL)
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