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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2008 at 18:16
I downloaded the free Nuclear Blast comp from Amazon recently and found one of the bands was unknown to me and quite appropriate for the Tech/Extreme section. brilliant guitar work. They are sadly of the growly type of vocals that I am losing tolerance of in my old age, but the songs were brilliant. Check em out. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2008 at 16:17
^^ The band name is?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2008 at 01:32
What? You can't read my mind?

Heh...that would be a vital detail, wouldn't it?

Arsis would be the bands name.

Apparently tolerance for death metal vocals is not the only thing I'm losing with age.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2008 at 22:07
After many listens of Cynic's Traced in Air, I actually wrote my first review on the said album.
I am very pleased with it...

When the album is officially released, I am definitely getting myself a copy of it. :{D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2008 at 00:08
Originally posted by faceofdoomness faceofdoomness wrote:

After many listens of Cynic's Traced in Air, I actually wrote my first review on the said album.
I am very pleased with it...

When the album is officially released, I am definitely getting myself a copy of it. :{D


Yeah, judging by the rave of reviews this album is receiving seems to be worth getting it. I'm quite impressed. Good band.Smile


Edited by burritounit - October 01 2008 at 00:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2008 at 00:27
Originally posted by burritounit burritounit wrote:

Yeah, judging by the rave of reviews this album is receiving seems to be worth getting it. I'm quite impressed. Good band.Smile


Thanks and yes they are a good band.
Its so surprising how they decided to suddenly come back to record a new album.
I didn't expect anything else to happen to Cynic.
This new album caught me completely off guard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2008 at 21:47
Been waiting to catch Arsis at a show...  Haven't made my mind up on them yet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2008 at 02:23
just got to see BTBAM today
set was kind of short but I really cannot see how anyone says they lack stage presence


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2008 at 20:08
They do lack stage presence. Maybe they've gotten better but they did when I saw them with Opeth.
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This band is absolutely amazing! They only have one demo out called The Aurora Veil. I wrote their bio for their PA listing. Check em out!
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4002
Their demo will be re-released soon. but you can probably find it somewhere to download

They're really great, I'm telling you. If you like Opeth or other Tech/Extreme prog metal then you'll like them.

http://www.myspace.com/neobliviscaris

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2008 at 04:26
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Don't flame me, but simply riffwise, the guitar parts for Meshuggah aren't anything to technically behold, its just memorizing a weird rhythm and ignoring the drums behind it. Tomas Haake's parts on the other hand are extremely difficult for the sole reason that he's basically playing 2 beats at once constantly. The solo's may be difficult, but the riffs just don't strike me as very hard to play, just hard to memorize sometimes (this is more exemplified by the later output that I've heard).


Fail.

Meshuggah is insanely hard stuff dude.
The  "weird rhythms" in itself is what makes half the difficulty.
Being able to execute a gallop triplet/sixteenth note triplet and crazy fast 16th notes in one riff, absolutely makes your picking hand fall off very quickly.
That sh*t needs serious practice and has to be constantly practiced to be able to maintain it and you have to be in completely top form to be able to play it without tensing up at some point and destroying your arm with lactic acid.
It's like saying what an athlete does is easy because "it's just running fast".
Clearly, they have to constantly put in the hours, be in absolute top form to perform what they do.
Some with playing technical stuff on a musical instrument... it's not stuff you can just bum around on every weekend or so, you gotta be at it regularly or you lose it. You gotta train for it.
If that's not technical.. than I don't know what is...


Post some videos up of you playing Meshuggah songs some time will yaWink



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2008 at 10:55
Originally posted by Jake Kobrin Jake Kobrin wrote:

They do lack stage presence. Maybe they've gotten better but they did when I saw them with Opeth.
BTW...
This band is absolutely amazing! They only have one demo out called The Aurora Veil. I wrote their bio for their PA listing. Check em out!
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4002
Their demo will be re-released soon. but you can probably find it somewhere to download

They're really great, I'm telling you. If you like Opeth or other Tech/Extreme prog metal then you'll like them.

http://www.myspace.com/neobliviscaris

Jake

 
Checked their myspace, liked what I heard.  Said Aurora Veil was available with paypal, but didn't see where. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2008 at 19:27
You have to send them an email. They recorded it not thinking that they'd ever sell it so it's widely available on the web too. If you DO want to support the band then send them an email with your order info to: [email protected] Xanoyr will take good care of you and your order! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2008 at 20:39
Originally posted by Jake Kobrin Jake Kobrin wrote:


BTW...
This band is absolutely amazing! They only have one demo out called The Aurora Veil. I wrote their bio for their PA listing. Check em out!
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4002
Their demo will be re-released soon. but you can probably find it somewhere to download

They're really great, I'm telling you. If you like Opeth or other Tech/Extreme prog metal then you'll like them.

http://www.myspace.com/neobliviscaris

Jake




Great band, love that demo!
Highly anticipating their upcoming album



A friend over at Progressive Ears has posted a link to this brilliant Japanese band called MUTYUMU that has all sorts of styles mixed in their music including classical, metal and avant.
Some of you might dig this:
http://www.myspace.com/mutyumu
http://sound.jp/mutyumu/

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2008 at 21:08
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

What? You can't read my mind?

Heh...that would be a vital detail, wouldn't it?

Arsis would be the bands name.

Apparently tolerance for death metal vocals is not the only thing I'm losing with age.


I suggested them, they were rejected. Great band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2008 at 10:18
Bumping this again.

Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:




A friend over at Progressive Ears has posted a link to this brilliant Japanese band called MUTYUMU that has all sorts of styles mixed in their music including classical, metal and avant.
Some of you might dig this:
http://www.myspace.com/mutyumu
http://sound.jp/mutyumu/

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Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Bumping this again.

Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:




A friend over at Progressive Ears has posted a link to this brilliant Japanese band called MUTYUMU that has all sorts of styles mixed in their music including classical, metal and avant.
Some of you might dig this:
http://www.myspace.com/mutyumu
http://sound.jp/mutyumu/

 
Listening to the clips now, interesting stuff..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2008 at 22:36
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

never really got Cynic's appeal



This, is an appreciation thread sir, not one to state you don't understand a band's appealLOL


Anyway, this thread needs a serious holy bump.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2008 at 22:50
Like the new Cynic, just not as much as the old one.  Needs more listens.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2008 at 23:42
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

never really got Cynic's appeal


This, is an appreciation thread sir, not one to state you don't understand a band's appealLOL



sorry LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2008 at 00:18
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

Don't flame me, but simply riffwise, the guitar parts for Meshuggah aren't anything to technically behold, its just memorizing a weird rhythm and ignoring the drums behind it. Tomas Haake's parts on the other hand are extremely difficult for the sole reason that he's basically playing 2 beats at once constantly. The solo's may be difficult, but the riffs just don't strike me as very hard to play, just hard to memorize sometimes (this is more exemplified by the later output that I've heard).


Fail.

Meshuggah is insanely hard stuff dude.
The  "weird rhythms" in itself is what makes half the difficulty.
Being able to execute a gallop triplet/sixteenth note triplet and crazy fast 16th notes in one riff, absolutely makes your picking hand fall off very quickly.
That sh*t needs serious practice and has to be constantly practiced to be able to maintain it and you have to be in completely top form to be able to play it without tensing up at some point and destroying your arm with lactic acid.
It's like saying what an athlete does is easy because "it's just running fast".
Clearly, they have to constantly put in the hours, be in absolute top form to perform what they do.
Some with playing technical stuff on a musical instrument... it's not stuff you can just bum around on every weekend or so, you gotta be at it regularly or you lose it. You gotta train for it.
If that's not technical.. than I don't know what is...


Post some videos up of you playing Meshuggah songs some time will yaWink



 
Hah, well if you're talking about "Bleed" then let me tell you about something one of my best friends was talking about. A couple weeks ago he was like, "I don't like them at all!", and then a couple days later he's like, "I love bleed! It's so simple, but it's so good!". I said, "Well it's definetely not simple", but for some reason he disagreed. Sure, he was able to play that galloping part that starts at the beginning pretty easy, which I do agree is pretty simple. But then I was like, "What about the second verse, when the gallops change their pattern", then he said it just changes to something like -imitates gallop-, but really once the second verse kicks in it's insanely complicated.
 
Oh well, I guess some people won't ever get the rhythmic complexity and thematic change that comes with Meshuggah.
 
By the way, "Traced In Air", is my number one album to get, but I can't beleive it's been delayed for a month, but I'll definetely try and get it when I can. I almost got "Focus" at a store last weekend, but I couldn't pass up getting my first Crimson record, and I hardly ever get a chance to be in a decent record store.

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