The American Politics Thread

I honestly don't think there really is that much worry about Sleepy Joe. First off... obviously.. this election is not about him.. but a simple question that often comes out of these kinds of elections. Four more years? Or not? They are referendums on the sitting President.. as 1992 was.. 1996.. 2004.. 2012.  

2nd point was one I semi made in jest and think it is a salient point even if people perhaps really have thought of it.  In absence of a 'strong' ideological (or otherwise) driven  Presidency. He serves more as a reset.. a caretaker.. and our country is led not from the Oval Office.. but Capitol Hill. 

I think a good many, including myself would like to see a return to a more balanced power structure in D.C.  Trump has sort of shown us where a fully realized notion of the Imperial Presidency can take us and I'm not sure many, even it is foremost in their mind, really like where that has taken us.  With Biden... just wake him up to sign the bills Congress and their dynamic leaders who will, not him, bear the brunt of plotting our recovery in a post Virus.. post Charlatan US.  Let him deal with repairing our international status and Congress with the nuts and bolts of internal policy. I could definitely see that happening.  Trump really has left a train wreck that even dwarfs what Bush Light left Obama and the Democratic Congress in 2008

but taking Madan's point about the center. Wasn't that always the fear about Bernie.. what about the center?

Sure to follow not just my posts, but the reality of this.  This election is not about the Democrat . whoever they chose.. but whether we wanted another 4 years of Trump. What would the center have done..  vote grudgingly for Sanders.. sit it out out of disgust.  Neither I think.. 

Honestly.. I think the most consequential event of the 2020 election was made months ago.. and for the shear import of it.. got very little press.

the lack of a 3rd party alternative vote. I do think that if Sanders had got the nomination..  Justin Amash would have run for President instead of sitting it out as he (thankfully) did.  Perhaps he could have thrown the election to Trump..  and much like Perot in 92 he could have been the difference.. but it would have been facinating to see for I think he would have appealed to many in the polticial center.

Not moderates per se... but the true center who hated Trump personally.. and hated the 'extremist' left policies of Sanders.  If I had to say.. yes..  I do think that if Sanders had won the nomination.. Trump would have won reelection for the center would have had a viable alternative as opposed to the binary choice the left has now.

Exactly the point I was trying to make.

a corpse??  

deleted a long rant about the 2nd amendment and the politics of guns in this country and the fundamental and foundational distrust of our government. They are related.. and crosses partisan lines.

I remember StevieG and me (now that is duo waiting to happen) talked of this way back. Inexperience was most likely to doom her if anything would.  She is not a professional poltician.. good God what an asset that can be.. just look at Trump in 2016 but she had to get through the primary to take advantage of it.  As I said before.. I saw it immediately inthe first debate.. she said 'I'm with Bernie' and I puked up a toxic mixture of popcorn and beer..

she got away from the issue that defined her entry into politics and what drew so many to her.. and was a stone cold general election winner.  Oh I think there will be a place for her.. the more so now as the one possible draw back .. a Republican Governor in her home state. may not make any difference if the Dem's pick up 5-8 Senate seats.. and not even sure Baker would elect a Repub to fill her seat. You don't become a Republican Gov of a deep blue state by playing partisan games.

those are old school Republicans. what little of them that are left in the party that is.. alive and well in Maryland. Deader than a f**king door nail here in Virginia. Those who have no time for religious fundies (rural VA obviously is a big hot bed of it), bigotry and white grievance pandering and the other hot button social issues that have driven batsh*t the rest of the party.. and those that vote for them.