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manofmystery 
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Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
 Posted: November 09 2012 at 11:13 |
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I have a one word solution: nullification
Ignored in the fact that Colorado and Washington rejected federal prohibitions on marijuana is that this doctrine is what they used to do so. The last shot we have to soften the blow of the coming collapse is states recognizing that they have the ability to cast aside unconstitutional federal laws. I don't see it happening but it'd be nice if states used their right of nullification for more than just legalizing marijuana. Challenge unconstitutional abominations such as NDAA and Obamacare would be a good start.
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dtguitarfan
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Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
Posted: November 09 2012 at 12:35 |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/demoralized-ann-coulter-laura-ingraham-over-hope_n_2089678.html
Haha, is it wrong that this just warms my heart? |
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HackettFan
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Joined: June 20 2012 Location: Oklahoma Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
Posted: November 09 2012 at 15:38 |
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Ann Coulter would call it treason, I believe. |
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jammun
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Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
Posted: November 09 2012 at 16:31 |
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I would love to contribute more to this thread, but fact is I live in Washington, and on December 6 I am going to head on out and purchase some of the finest pot I can find. So I'll be busy. Then I'm going to smoke an unusually large quantity of it and listen to Larks Tongue in Aspic at a very high volume. Just like I used to do back in '73, but without the creeping and unsettling paranoia. The people have spoken.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
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Argonaught
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Joined: June 04 2012 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 1413 |
Posted: November 09 2012 at 16:40 |
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Ann and Laura cheering each other up: Come on, girl, why the long face? ... er ... never mind .. |
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: November 09 2012 at 19:36 |
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To these prolific Republicans voting for Obama = looking for handouts. Unequivocally. It's not true, but whatever helps them sleep I guess. They're a party of naysayers, which can be better than a party of doing terrible unhelpful things, but they are reactionary and not proactive. They need to have a good thrashing and get some goddamn sense (dropping the rape fetish would probably be helpful too).
It's sad because we actually need to reduce our debt, but no one is failing the Republican party. It is very clear they talk big but still think in trickle-down corporatist nonsense. Social Security and Medicare are insolvent and no one is willing to reform them, and everyone thinks tax cuts will help. No one has the balls to raise taxes, and no one has the balls to cut defense. The country deserves what it gets.
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manofmystery
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Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: November 09 2012 at 21:02 |
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There was an editorial by Coulter in my paper, this morning, and I good a helluva good laugh out of it. She clung onto the sinking Romney ship so early that she must feel the need to defend him, calling him the "perfect candidate". Back in my bad old conservative days I remember seeing her giving a speech calling for all republicans to go out and seek the most conservative candidate possible because that's the only way to win. She sold out on that extremely quick when Romney came onto the scene. At this point she is serving as a good example of the existing power players within the decaying republican party trying to save themselves. Since she sold out to Romney she can't be in the group that blames him so she's gone with the extremely popular "voters only want hand outs" excuse. Either way they ignore the reality of the situation that they simply don't provide a real alternative to the democrats in the areas that matter and that their social stances are completely out of the mainstream. The Coulters, Hannitys, Kristols, Limbaughs, Levins, etc should be the ones blamed and expelled, if the party is to have a future, but it won't happen.
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manofmystery
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: November 09 2012 at 21:39 |
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learnliberty.org is a such a great education resource. It's a great place to send people who have been or currently are being indoctrinated by the government school system.
Now, wasn't that easy to understand, all you patheticly ignorant statists
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Slartibartfast
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Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: November 09 2012 at 23:57 |
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Good one dude. Mann Coulter is on record saying that a Rmoney victory would mean a loss for the crappy old party.
Remember to turn out to vote tomorrow... Edited by Slartibartfast - November 09 2012 at 23:57 |
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HackettFan
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Joined: June 20 2012 Location: Oklahoma Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 00:42 |
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That's not about government control of corporations. It's about corporate control of government. That's what happens when you put centrist corporatist Democrats in power to oversee regulation, not liberals/progressives. There's a difference. Sure corporatists will you use regulation as a favor granting system. It's the wrong people watching the hen house. Corporatist Democrats are like old time centrist Republicans, and like them they have no interest in the original justifications for regulation. |
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Greg W
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Joined: August 24 2004 Location: Chicago Status: Offline Points: 3904 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 02:11 |
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Its time for a Civil War in the USA.
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King of Loss
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Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16913 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 02:46 |
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I just find it funny, just like in 2004, the public voted in the guy whose economic and foreign policies led to general malaise, yet the other guy was a lot worse. Sheeeppppppppppple.
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stonebeard
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Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 11:49 |
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I don't particularly think that's a good idea. We just need heavy heavy reforms. Plus if we echoed the original civil war but let it acually happen this time, the South would languish in economic hell. The if education is less than stellar in the best parts of the country, it's positively on the short bus in the south.
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Argonaught
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Joined: June 04 2012 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 1413 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 12:20 |
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Yeah, and also for a great earthquake, famine and plague. That will fix everything real good. |
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The Doctor
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 12:28 |
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Just because you lost one election? Silliness. On the other hand, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to a peaceful secession of some of the red states from the union. Of course, I'd move out of Texas then and return to a blue state. I hear Vermont is nice this time of year.  It does seem to me that liberals and conservatives have very different thought processes and as a friend of mine said last night, it is almost like we are two separate species. It is amazing that we've been able to live together peacefully for so long and I wonder how much longer that peace can last. Especially given the current tone and comments like yours. Perhaps it is time to let the red states go their own way. |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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thellama73
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 12:33 |
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I would quite like that as well. |
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 12:46 |
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What?
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Slartibartfast
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Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 12:50 |
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we aren't going to force our religion on you, deal with it :)
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thellama73
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Posted: November 10 2012 at 12:50 |
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Just give it all to DC, because it's full of politicians and nobody likes them. |
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The Doctor
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
Posted: November 10 2012 at 13:12 |
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Give it to Rob. He's apparently an expert in money management.  |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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