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Points: 14169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2012 at 07:54
It's unfair, really, how I, a relatively very well informed kid, can't vote whereas an adult who is voting just because he's on a certain party, or it'll piss of their parents, or because of one policy he has, can.
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Well, today I will cast my first vote in a presidential election as an American. Too bad it will be a losing vote...


Who'd you vote for? Gary Johnson?
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Well, today I will cast my first vote in a presidential election as an American. Too bad it will be a losing vote...


Way to go, T!  Clap
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2012 at 07:57
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Well, today I will cast my first vote in a presidential election as an American. Too bad it will be a losing vote...


Way to go, T!  Clap


Congratulations, Teo! I am proud to be able to call you my fellow countryman.
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No matter what candidate, I predict a civil war by the end of 2014. The nation will be devised into several new nations, all in violent wars with each other until we all die in a fiery Armageddon triggered by the economy collapsing, civil liberties taken away, and increasing climate change. 
 
You should write a novel, this is the stuff that everyone wants to read about !
But make it 2054 instead, people dont like their reading to be that scary.
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Thanks everybody . I will vote for Romney. Sadly I think Gary Johnson has some good ideas (most actually) but he's not a serious candidate, not only in chances of winning but in everything. He's a clown. He's no Ron Paul.
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Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

No matter what candidate, I predict a civil war by the end of 2014. The nation will be devised into several new nations, all in violent wars with each other until we all die in a fiery Armageddon triggered by the economy collapsing, civil liberties taken away, and increasing climate change. 
 
You should write a novel, this is the stuff that everyone wants to read about !
But make it 2054 instead, people dont like their reading to be that scary.


It is National Novel Writing Month, after all.
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I really like him. I'm like a f**king fan boy. It may just be the rush of finding a candidate that shares my political ideologies, though. 
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

No matter what candidate, I predict a civil war by the end of 2014. The nation will be devised into several new nations, all in violent wars with each other until we all die in a fiery Armageddon triggered by the economy collapsing, civil liberties taken away, and increasing climate change. 
 
You should write a novel, this is the stuff that everyone wants to read about !
But make it 2054 instead, people dont like their reading to be that scary.


It is National Novel Writing Month, after all.


Nanorimo, yeah. I'm too bad of a writer. I've tried to write so many novels but I usually stop after a few chapters and never come back to them. Writing is stressful for me.
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^His ideas are ok, but I don't see him as a leader even in his own household, much less as a leader of a government of a proper state or country . And sorry but a president has to be able to lead, even if only not to do sh*t.
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Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

No matter what candidate, I predict a civil war by the end of 2014. The nation will be devised into several new nations, all in violent wars with each other until we all die in a fiery Armageddon triggered by the economy collapsing, civil liberties taken away, and increasing climate change. 
 
You should write a novel, this is the stuff that everyone wants to read about !
But make it 2054 instead, people dont like their reading to be that scary.


It is National Novel Writing Month, after all.


Nanorimo, yeah. I'm too bad of a writer. I've tried to write so many novels but I usually stop after a few chapters and never come back to them. Writing is stressful for me.


I began my first novel when I was your age.  I still have those spiral-bound notebooks of cliches and terrible penmanship.

You know what I'm doing right now?  This very minute?  I am rewriting that novel (which has expanded into five volumes).  Seventeen years later, I'm sitting at a desk, reinventing the characters, the worlds, and the circumstances, and (hopefully) doing them justice.
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My problem is that I never have any passion for writing. Whenever I do it it seems like more of a chore than a form of expression.
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Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


One last shot before I go to bedLOL


What are you drinking shots of? Can I have one?


Double shot of liberty and peace? Wink




Where did you find Gary Johnson juice? Do they sell it somewhere?

You can get it at NeverGonnaHappen-Mart.
Ah yes...the "need" to vote for a "realistic" candidate. Even some hardcore limited governemnt folk I know can't break the habit and are going Romney (what a joke). Likewise, hardcore liberals that cave and go Democrat...
 
 
f**k it. Going with what my beliefs from now on. I can't change the 2 party system but at least I can refuse to take part in it.
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Great economy except for the bubble and it crashing and all. And no wars, except those covert and overt military operations that we just didn't call wars. And he was nothing with regards to something on the side when compared to JFK.
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Thanks everybody . I will vote for Romney. Sadly I think Gary Johnson has some good ideas (most actually) but he's not a serious candidate, not only in chances of winning but in everything. He's a clown. He's no Ron Paul.
A Clown?
 
 
You do know that he has a track record....he's not just talk Johnson has tangible proof of doing what he said. Of course they predate the whole limited government craze. He and Paul are the two that actually HAVE proven they can be trusted. You dont have to vote for him of course but a clown? Makes no sense bro.
 
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yay! fight the machine! Plus, if Johnson gets 5% of the vote, the Libertarian party will get on the official ballot, federal funding for their campaigns, and be on the official debates.
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

And how do you think your boss decides how much to pay you? It is not based on whim, but based on the value he believes you bring to the companies. Companies cannot afford to pay people more than they produce. If they did, they would go out of business.

They can't afford to pay the entirety of their employees more than they produce in aggregate. They can, however, overpay certain people and underpay others so that it evens out. Not to mention that they can afford to pay people less than they produce in general. Which is what they have to do, otherwise they wouldn't be making any profit.

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:


Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Why is it unfair that they also get the best medical care, since they have done the most for others? Wal-Mart has made life better for many times more people than Mother Theresa ever did. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs did more to make the world a better place than Gandhi (whom I hate, but that's another topic for later.)

Because what this implies is that the health and even life of some people is worth more than that of others.


No it doesn't. It implies that some types medical care (not synonymous with health or life) are worth more than others.
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In the case of the hypothetical kidney transplant we're talking, it is very well synonymous to health, and in some cases life. If there were a rich guy and a poor guy with a life-threatening liver condition, but only one kidney to transplant, would you give it to the rich guy on the basis that he has "contributed more to society"?
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I don't think I should have the power to decide who gets the kidney, but if there is a fixed price for it that is the same for both people, how does that imply that one of their lives has more value than the other? If we are equating the cost of getting a kidney to the value of a life (which I don't think we should, but I believe is your point, unless I am mistaken) and it costs $10,000 for each person, then both the poor man and the rich man would have the same value for his life ($10,000)
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10.000 $ may seem a bit more if you got 375$ at the account, than it does if you got 10.000.000 $ 

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