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I put Angherr Shisspa on in the car and that seems to have a similar affect.

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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I'm sure Patrick got Les Morts Vont Vite from there... oh wait, I think he got his copy from Mindawn.

Besides, with your earache, they'd not be suitable right now. Wink

Hmmm, what else do they have that sounds interesting then?  I don't use eMusic, because I always buy CDs like people should be doing. Big%20smile

Plus nothing beats looking at a pile of CDs and saying "they're mine!".  You can't do that with digitial files and you cannot get them signed either, of course.

I heard a Mothlite track, I thought they'd be too quiet for your tastes, Melissa?  It didn't sound remotely like Guapo's noise.

Oooh, you could try and get Picchio dal Pozzo's second album, it's RIO and excellent.  Not sure if it's on eMusic either, mind you.

Indeed, nothing beats CDs.  [Edited to add - before someone else does - except LPs! LOL]  I am amassing them, too, rather rapidly... Embarrassed  But emusic is great for those 'cheap thrills', yes? Big%20smile

I wasn't really expecting to like Mothlite - I think I even heard something of theirs before on their myspace or something, and didn't hate it but wasn't raving about it, either.  But a friend of mine rather pressed it upon me, so I caved in and had a proper listen... and really, really liked it.  There's something about that Daniel O'Sullivan - he is sneaky.  You might dismiss him as this rather effete, pompous so-and-so, and maybe the first time you hear the music it just seems rather clever (maybe even pretentious).  But it's got something about it.  Something sweetly sinister.  It's almost like... he's licked an hallucinogenic toad so you don't have to!! Dead Wacko LOL  (NB: obligatory public service message - kids, don't lick hallucinogenic toads. Big%20smile)  A weird kind of Lewis Carroll meets Aldous Huxley type scenario...

Hmm, I might listen to it again now. Big%20smile
 
Sound advice there. What you should do is get some Censored, Censored and Censored. First you Censored the mixture with a Censored and then CensoredCensored it with a Censored. When it's nice and Censored, smear some on your Censored and take the rest up your Censored and wait for the Censored to start. Admittedly there's a good chance you'll wake up on a drip feed somewhere in central Europe with no idea of how you got there, but it made Ozzy Osbourne the man he is today!
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

You could get both Aethenor albums and still have a download left over.

I could... but I'm a bit dubious about whether I'd like Aethenor, to be honest.  It's ambient, improvised, cold music, whilst I'm more into incident-crammed, tightly-composed, volcanically-hot stuff...! Big%20smile  Although, given my Pavlovian response to all things Daniel O'Sullivan these days, maybe I should give it a go... one day. Tongue
 
Aethenor is well worth giving a try, and emusic is a cheap way to dip your toe into the water.
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You may want to consider Crimetime Orchestra if you're an avant jazz/fusion fan. I haven't had time to listen to the whole thing yet (it's over an hour and is eight tracks, one of which is 22 minutes) but what I did hear was amazing. I'll try to get back to you when my opinion is less lame. ;-)

I don't get This Heat. It seems like I should like them, but they aren't doing it for me.
 
Oh, Mindawn is nice. I don't really care about FLAC, though--lossless is extremely overrated. But maybe I just don't have good enough ears. ;-)


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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

You may want to consider Crimetime Orchestra if you're an avant jazz/fusion fan. I haven't had time to listen to the whole thing yet (it's over an hour and is eight tracks, one of which is 22 minutes) but what I did hear was amazing. I'll try to get back to you when my opinion is less lame. ;-)

I don't get This Heat. It seems like I should like them, but they aren't doing it for me.
 
Oh, Mindawn is nice. I don't really care about FLAC, though--lossless is extremely overrated. But maybe I just don't have good enough ears. ;-)
 
Which This Heat album(s) have you heard?
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

I put Angherr Shisspa on in the car and that seems to have a similar affect.

Except my CD player isn't working right now. Ouch


Angherr Shisspa would be good in the car though! Yoshida's drumming would be EPIC. Big%20smile
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Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

A silly question I know but one I have yet to find out an answer too...

But who is the musician in the wheelchair on the cover of Héresie?  I believe it is Berckmans (by looking at later photos of him on the UZ website) but he is not in a wheelchair in those.

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Bump.

Sorry! Embarrassed

Can anyone answer this?
 
I can't give a definitive answer. Trigaux has had mobility problems for some years, but I don't know if he has ever been wheelchair bound. And yes, the one in the wheelchair looks more like Berckmans to me. maybe somebody can ask him at next year's RIO festival.


I'm not entirely sure, but here's a 3rd vote/guess that it's probably Berckmans. That's what I've thought anyway, but I'm far from being an expert on the matter.

I wish there was a way of knowing for sure right now. Disapprove
 
The one in the weelchair is Guy Segers. I recognize him from other pictures of UZ's early years..
 
 
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Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

A silly question I know but one I have yet to find out an answer too...

But who is the musician in the wheelchair on the cover of Héresie?  I believe it is Berckmans (by looking at later photos of him on the UZ website) but he is not in a wheelchair in those.

*snip*



Bump.

Sorry! Embarrassed

Can anyone answer this?
 
I can't give a definitive answer. Trigaux has had mobility problems for some years, but I don't know if he has ever been wheelchair bound. And yes, the one in the wheelchair looks more like Berckmans to me. maybe somebody can ask him at next year's RIO festival.


I'm not entirely sure, but here's a 3rd vote/guess that it's probably Berckmans. That's what I've thought anyway, but I'm far from being an expert on the matter.

I wish there was a way of knowing for sure right now. Disapprove
 
The one in the weelchair is Guy Segers. I recognize him from other pictures of UZ's early years..
 
 


Do you know why he was in a wheelchair?
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I don't get This Heat. It seems like I should like them, but they aren't doing it for me.


I've got all their albums and I'm not too hot on them either.  They've got a few tracks I like, but most of it leaves me cold. 

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I want that This Heat boxset.  I've heard some of their tracks and some are very good.  I do like Charles Hayward a lot though.

I also have a Camberwell Now album somewhere which I've yet to listen to.

Ah, thanks Blowie!  I'm sure I've seen other photos of Segers not in a wheelchair though.

Any ideas?

Actually, I'm a friend on Guy Segers' MySpace page, so maybe I could ask him?

Guy Segers is always on the right in the following photos:






I think it may have just been a reason to make a weird photo for Heresie. Tongue


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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I don't get This Heat. It seems like I should like them, but they aren't doing it for me.

I've got all their albums and I'm not too hot on them either.  They've got a few tracks I like, but most of it leaves me cold. 

I've got some This Heat, but I haven't listened to it too closely yet.  I think there are two issues with it for me.

1.  Timbre.  (Sorry... I may be about to be pretentious! Tongue)  I'm so immured in that richly-textured feel of 70s music, that the (how to describe it??) flatter, more matte (?? I did warn you! Embarrassed) feel of 80s music kinda feels weird.  I need to push through that barrier somehow.  (The Residents may help with this - like a bridge from one to the other...)

2.  Hipness.  Let's face it - This Heat is a hipster totem. LOL  And I'm rather allergic to that.  "Oh, you listen to This Heat?  That makes you COOL."  Does it...?  Really...?  Hmmm.  (I'd rather be weird than cool. Wink)

And that's all. Big%20smile
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

You could get both Aethenor albums and still have a download left over.

I could... but I'm a bit dubious about whether I'd like Aethenor, to be honest.  It's ambient, improvised, cold music, whilst I'm more into incident-crammed, tightly-composed, volcanically-hot stuff...! Big%20smile  Although, given my Pavlovian response to all things Daniel O'Sullivan these days, maybe I should give it a go... one day. Tongue
Aethenor is well worth giving a try, and emusic is a cheap way to dip your toe into the water.

I know I'll succumb to this eventually, but I'm fighting it. Wink

I'll probably get me some of that Miasma next, on the DOS front. Smile
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Sound advice there. What you should do is get some Censored, Censored and Censored. First you Censored the mixture with a Censored and then CensoredCensored it with a Censored. When it's nice and Censored, smear some on your Censored and take the rest up your Censored and wait for the Censored to start. Admittedly there's a good chance you'll wake up on a drip feed somewhere in central Europe with no idea of how you got there, but it made Ozzy Osbourne the man he is today!

This is one occasion when censorship is probably a good thing! Tongue

Anyway... Mothlite should be in the Archives.  I'm going to suggest them. Smile
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I have Magma's MDK for my ride to school this morning and Beefy's Trout Mask Replica for the way home.

What a way to start and end my day at school on Friday. Big%20smile

Now the hardest part will be not to start singing and/or air drumming. OuchLOL
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I don't get This Heat. It seems like I should like them, but they aren't doing it for me.

I've got all their albums and I'm not too hot on them either.  They've got a few tracks I like, but most of it leaves me cold. 

I've got some This Heat, but I haven't listened to it too closely yet.  I think there are two issues with it for me.

1.  Timbre.  (Sorry... I may be about to be pretentious! Tongue)  I'm so immured in that richly-textured feel of 70s music, that the (how to describe it??) flatter, more matte (?? I did warn you! Embarrassed) feel of 80s music kinda feels weird.  I need to push through that barrier somehow.  (The Residents may help with this - like a bridge from one to the other...)

2.  Hipness.  Let's face it - This Heat is a hipster totem. LOL  And I'm rather allergic to that.  "Oh, you listen to This Heat?  That makes you COOL."  Does it...?  Really...?  Hmmm.  (I'd rather be weird than cool. Wink)

And that's all. Big%20smile
 
I actually find the remastered versions of the first album and Deceit to be as richly textured as anything currently available, and the remainder of the box set (the live set aside) isn't far behind.
 
I find the hipster status of This Heat slightly laughable myself. Play any of This Heat's RIO contemporaries to most of the hipster contingent and they'll react as though you've just force fed them radioactive dogsh*t. The poor things just don't get it Wink.
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I actually find the remastered versions of the first album and Deceit to be as richly textured as anything currently available, and the remainder of the box set (the live set aside) isn't far behind.
 
I find the hipster status of This Heat slightly laughable myself. Play any of This Heat's RIO contemporaries to most of the hipster contingent and they'll react as though you've just force fed them radioactive dogsh*t. The poor things just don't get it Wink.

I think it's just a personal prejudice of mine.  I always (well, usually) find 80s stuff harder to get into.  I don't think my description was very helpful, either - 'richly textured' (or otherwise) is somewhat open to interpretation! LOL

If I can get over my hipness aversion, I'll give it a proper go! Tongue

As for that 'radioactive canine excrement' reaction - dear oh dear. LOL  All it needs, though, is someone achingly 'now' to cite UZ as an influence, or something... actually, no, I hope that doesn't happen. Confused Tongue
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I'll probably get me some of that Miasma next, on the DOS front. Smile


You'll love them I'm sure. Last years Manufana EP is fantastic.
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I actually find the remastered versions of the first album and Deceit to be as richly textured as anything currently available, and the remainder of the box set (the live set aside) isn't far behind.
 
I find the hipster status of This Heat slightly laughable myself. Play any of This Heat's RIO contemporaries to most of the hipster contingent and they'll react as though you've just force fed them radioactive dogsh*t. The poor things just don't get it Wink.

I think it's just a personal prejudice of mine.  I always (well, usually) find 80s stuff harder to get into.  I don't think my description was very helpful, either - 'richly textured' (or otherwise) is somewhat open to interpretation! LOL

If I can get over my hipness aversion, I'll give it a proper go! Tongue

As for that 'radioactive canine excrement' reaction - dear oh dear. LOL  All it needs, though, is someone achingly 'now' to cite UZ as an influence, or something... actually, no, I hope that doesn't happen. Confused Tongue


wow, this just confirm i live with my head in the sand. by hip, are we talking about people who read pitchfork as the gospel?
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I actually find the remastered versions of the first album and Deceit to be as richly textured as anything currently available, and the remainder of the box set (the live set aside) isn't far behind.
 
I find the hipster status of This Heat slightly laughable myself. Play any of This Heat's RIO contemporaries to most of the hipster contingent and they'll react as though you've just force fed them radioactive dogsh*t. The poor things just don't get it Wink.

I think it's just a personal prejudice of mine.  I always (well, usually) find 80s stuff harder to get into.  I don't think my description was very helpful, either - 'richly textured' (or otherwise) is somewhat open to interpretation! LOL

If I can get over my hipness aversion, I'll give it a proper go! Tongue

As for that 'radioactive canine excrement' reaction - dear oh dear. LOL  All it needs, though, is someone achingly 'now' to cite UZ as an influence, or something... actually, no, I hope that doesn't happen. Confused Tongue


Well I can do worse than that. Cry

Those rather lacklustre guys of The Libertines (I believe it was them, it may have been Babyshambles Dead) apparently have recorded a version of The Graham Collier Sextet track Lullabye for a Lonely Child.  Which is a beautiful piece that was also performed by Nucleus (which actually included former members of The Graham Collier Sextet).

Luckily for me, I have not heard this cover version and I don't know if I want to either. Ouch
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Originally posted by Apsalar Apsalar wrote:

wow, this just confirm i live with my head in the sand. by hip, are we talking about people who read pitchfork as the gospel?

I'm not even sure what 'pitchfork' is, other than being an implement favoured by angry peasants who wish to disrupt the machinations of misguided aristocrats. Confused LOL
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