For my Libertarian friends

Just saw a union guy on the news trying to defend the state liquor stores.  Made me want to f**king throw up.

Padraic wrote: Just saw a union guy on the news trying to defend the state liquor stores.  Made me want to f**king throw up.

What could he possibly have to say? 


Edited by Epignosis - November 04 2010 at 21:40

Epignosis wrote: Padraic wrote: Just saw a union guy on the news trying to defend the state liquor stores.  Made me want to f**king throw up. What could he possibly have to say?

Oh yes. The government not having a monopoly on the sale of liquor. What a libertarian paradise. 

Padraic wrote: God forbid we have private liquor sales, like that bastion of nutjob Libertarianism, Hawaii.

Oh, I do hope you are joking about that state.  We went on honeymoon there.  Probably the best state in the union.  And don't say "because it is so far away".


Edited by Slartibartfast - November 04 2010 at 22:15

Slartibartfast wrote: Padraic wrote: God forbid we have private liquor sales, like that bastion of nutjob Libertarianism, Hawaii. Oh, I do hope you are joking about that state.  We went on honeymoon there.  Probably the best state in the union.  And don't say "because it is so far away".

Egh...I am moving back to NC...state income tax and ABC stores....I am gonna miss keeping more of my income and buying Evan Williams Green Label by the liter for 9 bones at this place up the street.

*sigh*

However, family.

Also, a $470 a month house with a big ass yard and a deck we get to rent to own.

The scales have been tipped.

One question Libertarians... Rob has mentioned Hitler and how if we start allowing little rights to be taken in specific circumstances, the chances of having something like nazism are higher... So, in Libertarian Land, do people like him cease to exist? Arguably, a narcissist dangerous personality would be very likely to emerge in Libertarian Land. What would stop him? It wouldn't be the fact that we regard certain rights as inalienable, untouchable, but the fact that the structure and system of society would grant very little control to a single person. In Nazi Germany, is not like suddenly all germans decided to strip jews off their rights; a few horrible people acting selfishly elevated their ridiculous ideas to principles and even dogmas, and then they sold them to the people, also gaining total power due to the structure (or lack thereof in a way) of society... Yes, we can put all this hypothetical scenarios and make some of us look like little-Adolfs but in thr end there will always be real Adolfs who, given power, wouldn't give a damn even if everybody else holds deep principles. Libertarian Land would be less likely to yield another Third Reich mostly because it would be quite difficult to attain the necessary power...

I would HOPE the Libertarians would say the consumers right to class action suits can not be inhibited.
After all, its all about rights...and not business right?

Though in real life land libertarianism does not seem so ideal but just another platform to be outright pro-business, and not about rights.
IMHO
*emphasis on opinion*

The T wrote: One question Libertarians... Rob has mentioned Hitler and how if we start allowing little rights to be taken in specific circumstances, the chances of having something like nazism are higher... So, in Libertarian Land, do people like him cease to exist? Arguably, a narcissist dangerous personality would be very likely to emerge in Libertarian Land. What would stop him? It wouldn't be the fact that we regard certain rights as inalienable, untouchable, but the fact that the structure and system of society would grant very little control to a single person. In Nazi Germany, is not like suddenly all germans decided to strip jews off their rights; a few horrible people acting selfishly elevated their ridiculous ideas to principles and even dogmas, and then they sold them to the people, also gaining total power due to the structure (or lack thereof in a way) of society... Yes, we can put all this hypothetical scenarios and make some of us look like little-Adolfs but in thr end there will always be real Adolfs who, given power, wouldn't give a damn even if everybody else holds deep principles. Libertarian Land would be less likely to yield another Third Reich mostly because it would be quite difficult to attain the necessary power...

There'd be no power structure for him to seize. No laws he could pass to justify his actions. No position he could be elected to or gain.

Any attempt of a new Hitler would be no different than a criminal, which is how he should have been regarded.