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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 46354 |
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Zappastolethetowels ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2023 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 1209 |
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Later Genesis falls into that sphere, certainly not Selling... therefore you can't compare it to Crime... bc we're talking different styles of music. I don't think you gave Canterbury a fair shot - there is more out there beyond Caravan and the Softs. As for Camel, their career is too varied to be lumped into sounding like elevator music. Nobody on PA cares about the Softs and Gong - are you sure?? What's so funny about late 70's Tull? As for your takes... 1. really, doesn't make a difference to me in the least 2. that comes down to personal convenience - you can't change people 3. sure, but Prog Rock happened to be invented and excelled at by the British 4. Rush are still living off the fame and fortunes of being the first to extend repetitive riffage upon a broad synthetic canvas and then calling it prog metal. Hey look Alex, we are pioneers now! Just not long ago, we sounded like a garage band until a great manager decided he can make a load of a buck letting us play however we want! ![]() 5. Can't comment as I don't know Marillion well, but that in itself sounds highly unlikely. You can't just plainly dismiss those legendary 5 albums! ![]() |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29991 |
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Genesis were closer to APP, ELO and Supertramp than they were to prog (ELP and Yes). Song writing v instrumental based prog.Genesis were great song writers and so were Supertramp. I would even go as far as to say that Crime Of The Century is better than SEBTP. The live album thing only seems to happen with Pink Floyd Canterbury is a snooze fest as are Camel most of the time (prog's equivalent of elevator music) ATTWT actually has the 'balls' that a lot of Genesis lacks and no stupid tracks like The Battle Of Epping Forest thank god Soft Machine have a lot of noodling, even on PA no one really cares about them! No one really cares about Gong either Miles Davis is not prog (not a hot take) Krautrock - don't know why anyone listens to it (even Germans hate it mostly) Yeah right lol A few more of my own personal hot takes: Jazz fusion/jazz rock is not prog ''Prog'' does not equal progressive music ( and doesn't need to) Progressive music can happen in any genre, its not the prisoner of a few English seventies bands that in themselves didn't invent music Rush were as progressive as any band in the late seventies (but there was bugger all else!) Marillion were more interesting than Genesis (Forgotten Sons on its own is more interesting than the vast amount of even classic era Genesis) |
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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Keith Emerson's place in prog history was cemented when, as a youth, he was on date at a local fair and told the young lady he was with that he'd really like her to put her hand on his organ. But due the roar of the crowd she misheard and the next day she gave Keith a Hammond Organ.
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Zappastolethetowels ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2023 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 1209 |
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Supertramp are closer to ELO, APP, and the Moody Blues of the time than Prog. Prog live albums should not be counted as part of a studio discography! I find the run of Poseidon through Islands more engaging than the debut of KC. Rush and Dream Theater never made a timeless record (I hope I don't summon Big Sky ![]() Yes made nothing great post-Relayer. Canterbury prog is underrated and Camel are not Canterbury! ATOTT by Genesis is a snooze fest! Soft Machine's Fourth is their masterpiece! D. Allen's Gong was lame (with the exception of the first 2) You are hard pressed to find a M. Davis record you can sit through and thoroughly enjoy! I love J. Johnson though! Most Krautrock is aimless goofy noodling or just pathetic! 75, 77-79 were best periods for Tull's music! Edited by Zappastolethetowels - November 29 2023 at 16:27 |
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6859 |
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It's my favorite too. We played this last weekend. So good!
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Zappastolethetowels ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2023 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 1209 |
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You're probably right!
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 53389 |
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I always thought it was a giant pair pants where you can fit your whole body into one leg.
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12719 |
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However, the worst singer in prog is IQ's Peter Nicholls. ![]() Edited by Grumpyprogfan - November 29 2023 at 16:16 |
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 53389 |
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Agreed. It's my favorite of his discography, i.e., I listen to it more than any of his other solo efforts. The faster I put spoons in my mouth, the sooner I can become a Henderson stack.
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 53389 |
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I was wondering when this album would make its appearance. I wouldn't go as far as you, but it's also a favorite of mine. Who Dunnit? is a great tune too! There are a lot of pre-arranged sofa cushions in my non-commutative junk drawer.
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I'd take those 3 ahead of most vocalists, all excellent. |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 44896 |
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Yes, they're certainly unique. There's no argument from me.
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Zappastolethetowels ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 19 2023 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 1209 |
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fixed it for you
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 44896 |
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Roy Harper, Peter Hammill & Robert Wyatt are the three worst singers in prog!
A hot take for sure, but does anyone agree?
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19184 |
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I said something similar before but I'll say it again. Prog didn't make some big comeback in the 90s. It was still largely underground just like in the 80s. I know there's this big conception that prog came back to life with Anglagard or Dream Theater or whatever but it only made the older fans pay attention more. Nothing more and nothing less imo.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 44896 |
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I once made a trash list of Thrash Metal, Death Metal & Black Metal which all belonged in the bin.
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Frets N Worries ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 30 2023 Location: Your Basement Status: Offline Points: 4260 |
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Here's one, the flower kings are the most generic prog band I've ever heard, and i've heard many a generic prog band
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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^ I think you missed the - awkward, maybe - point of this thread: venting unpopular opinions about prog. Not very elegant, I agree, but it could be worse: The most popular prog bands since the 90s are not progressive at all... ![]() |
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