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proggman
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Posted: January 14 2014 at 16:16 |
One vote for Tommy Fripp. I mean both.
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adace1
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Posted: January 14 2014 at 16:18 |
Iommi.
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verslibre
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Posted: January 14 2014 at 17:01 |
Wow. Two wildly different, groundbreaking guitarists in two different genres...!
Fripp has done some amazing stuff, as we all know, but Tony's tone and approach to a hard guitar style has resonated so deeply throughout the rock world (not to mention I own more Sabbath albums than KC albums!!!), that I have to go with Mr. Iommi.
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Posted: January 14 2014 at 17:49 |
Fripp for me.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: January 14 2014 at 17:50 |
I love Iommi's style and sound, but Robert Fripp is indisputable.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 14 2014 at 18:49 |
Robert. The man has given us different worlds of guitar music.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - January 14 2014 at 18:53
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Posted: January 14 2014 at 19:12 |
Fripp
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Posted: January 15 2014 at 11:40 |
chopper wrote:
Who the hell is Tommy Iommy? |
You are reading wrong. "Tommy Iommi" is written here. So, the surname is correct at least.
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schizoidman
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Posted: January 15 2014 at 14:46 |
Fripp.
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Making the useless useful 24/7.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: January 15 2014 at 14:59 |
Tom Me Oh My !
Alright, only joking, Frippin Heck!
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 16 2014 at 02:25 |
Horizons wrote:
Everything King Crimson related > Everything Black Sabbath related.
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This but in reverse
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Ignorance is strength.”
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chopper
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Posted: January 16 2014 at 03:22 |
I am not reading wrong, he's edited it since my post (which is why the OP says "fixed" and has an edit).
The least you can do is get the guy's name right.
Edited by chopper - January 16 2014 at 03:23
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Jim Garten
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Posted: January 16 2014 at 06:14 |
verslibre wrote:
Two wildly different, groundbreaking guitarists in two different genres |
Exactly, so a comparison?
These two guys could arguably be described as the inventors of their particular genres, so their influence within progressive rock & heavy metal cannot be understated. Further, they're both still writing & performing music to (varied) critical acclaim.
The masters:
Edited by Jim Garten - January 16 2014 at 06:15
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: January 16 2014 at 06:20 |
I corrected the thread title.
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Posted: January 16 2014 at 06:41 |
Thanks, i show my blunt ignorance
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TODDLER
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Posted: January 16 2014 at 08:45 |
They are both innovators of inventive styles on guitar that changed the way music was being played prior to the surfacing of the 2 in the music business. They are both important regarding change.
Technique is a entire different observation. First of all...Fripp was very schooled or sounded extremely schooled dating back to 68' on the Giles, Giles, & Fripp album. Tony Iommi had a short spell with Jethro Tull during that time and I'm unsure if he was to Fripp's level then. I believe he appears on the film "Rock n' Roll Circus"? Fripp had an amazing technique early on with cross picking 24 notes of the Tri Tone ..Devil's interval and then in reverse with absolute precision like a Jazz guitarist. I'm unsure if Tony Iommi was playing this sort of guitar style and it's possible that Fripp was more advanced.
Iommi may have had no interest in playing that way and in some sense..it is pointless to bring this to the table..however ..it comes to mind due to the extreme difference between the 2 of them regarding technique. Iommi had damaged his hand and he had a lot going for him in the area of re-development. He must get credit for that because it's a task that many musicians may have dismissed and threw in the towel. Iommi progressed as a player on Heaven & Hell. That was obvious. He even changed his sound a bit. His licks were faster and cleaner by that point in time. Fripp had been playing pieces by Paganini in the 60's and Iommi may have been playing more of a Blues style then...which...is self explanatory as to how he may have impressed Jethro Tull and got the gig. What I've heard from Mick Abrahams on This Was really didn't differ all that much from Iommi's abilities as a guitarist. Martin Barre also added a heavy attack on bass strings...just like Iommi did on Master of Reality. Iommi had a "hot lick" style where he added trills between note passages and it was appealing for the times. He may be more progressive than any of us are aware of today. I pick both.
Edited by TODDLER - January 16 2014 at 12:22
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AEProgman
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Posted: January 16 2014 at 15:59 |
^ Nice insight Toddler!
This Apples and Oranges to me, so I pick both...
I almost referenced a poor attempt at humor with The Who's - Tommy in here, but I see Aginor has had enough grief.....
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dr prog
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Posted: January 16 2014 at 17:53 |
Fripp is better but I like Sabbath more during the 70s.
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Icarium
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Posted: January 16 2014 at 17:57 |
AEProgman wrote:
^ Nice insight Toddler!
This Apples and Oranges to me, so I pick both...
I almost referenced a poor attempt at humor with The Who's - Tommy in here, but I see Aginor has had enough grief..... |
at leat Robert did not become Roger Froop
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Icarium
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Posted: January 16 2014 at 18:40 |
Is Iommis playing technic, is it alternate picking or crosspicking, he is verry delicate and elegant in his lefthand playing, intricate
Edited by aginor - January 16 2014 at 18:41
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