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ole-the-first 
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 Posted: November 22 2012 at 05:20 |
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'Houses of Holy' is a fine follow-up to Led Zep IV.
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This night wounds time.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 00:33 |
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I think my main problem with Houses it how it sounds; it's just so flat, mis-mixed and thin sounding, especially compared to the first four
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 08:25 |
^ You know, I felt that same way too, and yet I haven't even noticed that. Something just felt right about the production. Yes, it does weird how they slapped and lumped it. However, the band was capable of making some hell of a music that I didn't even think about the production. That's the Zep magic. 
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 08:28 |
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Their Third, definitely.
It contains the superb IMMIGRANT SONG!
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 08:41 |
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Gerinski
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 10:29 |
From a prog perspective I voted for Houses although Physical Graffiti is nearly on par, if only because it has double material (and a cool cover in vinyl).
II is a seminal rock album but less interesting from a prog perspective.
But even before that I would recommend you to get the video of The Song Remains The Same, the tracklist is excellent and seeing them in their prime always provides something extra, an image is worth more than 1000 words as they say...
In Through The Out Door is usually bashed around here but I enjoy much of it too.
Edited by Gerinski - November 23 2012 at 10:30
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Sagichim
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 10:37 |
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If you would like to explore their most progy tunes go for Physical Graffiti, being a double album it has some weak tracks as well. I believe if they would loose a few tracks it would become their ultimate album.
But if you're looking for a classic Zep go for the first.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 17:37 |
 Gerinski wrote:
In Through The Out Door is usually bashed around here but I enjoy much of it too. |
Absolutely-- one of my favorites!
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 17:38 |
Atavachron wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
In Through The Out Door is usually bashed around here but I enjoy much of it too. |
Absolutely-- one of my favorites!
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I like it too.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 18:21 |
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Yup, 'In Through The Out Door' is extremelly underrated.
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This night wounds time.
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Finnforest
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 18:26 |
In through the out door certifiably sucks. A monster downer of an album, sloppy, uninspired. Coda was better.  No offense guys.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 19:04 |
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Coda is great, but Out Door is sublime. One of their best later albums; clean, mature, lovely.
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 21:35 |
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Ok, that was a harsh assessment. But just curious....do you guys think it's a better album than anything that preceded it?
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Gerinski
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Posted: November 23 2012 at 23:17 |
Finnforest wrote:
Ok, that was a harsh assessment. But just curious....do you guys think it's a better album than anything that preceded it? |
Well this will sound heretic to some but I prefer In Through The Out Door than I or III (I'm not too keen on blues-rock you know, although I reckon II and IV are really brilliant albums).
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Posted: November 24 2012 at 01:01 |
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I've always thought Presence was their weakest album.
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Magma America Great Make Again
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 24 2012 at 02:03 |
Finnforest wrote:
Ok, that was a harsh assessment. But just curious....do you guys think it's a better album than anything that preceded it?
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Yes, Houses for one : ITtOD sounds much more complete and unified to me, not to mention that incredible studio sound they'd perfected by then. In many ways it is their production peak. Further, it showed a real advancement and, if you'll
forgive, progression as well as an interesting new period
for them when much of the composing & arranging was done by JPJ and
Bonzo with Page on harmonic support and Plant adding elegant vocals;
the first album after the death of Plant's son; and their last real
studio LP (as Coda was outtakes).
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:07 |
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Buy Houses of the Holy if you want them at their proggiest, LZIII is you want them at their most acoustic, LZI if you want them at their bluesiest, and Physical Graffiti if you want their quintessence. LZII, although revered by many, is not a favorite of mine. It's good, but it can wait until later. Same with Presence, unless you really go for their epic tracks, in which case you might want it just for "Achilles Last Stand". In Through the Out Door and Coda should be your last two purchases.
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Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:12 |
I know these threads always get people talking about the band and the different albums, but I must confess that I feel younglins should find their own way through a band like Zep. No offence Andrew, you're a good kid - but you should do your own thing - just like you do your music. "Finding one's own path" (cue Yoda) is the way you come across diamonds in the rough, and years from now you'll be singing some obscure maligned Zep tracks praises.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:21 |
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just don't get like I did where you're selling your body on the streets for Zep bootleg $ ... 'course that's when boots were double LPs with full-color gatefolds and colored vinyl
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:32 |
 Aaaaaarrrgh stop it now you mad fruit you!
And don't listen to him Andrew! Pears are notorious Stones fans. I want you back on the street in a jiffy in your finest and most skimpiest latex dress!
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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