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Posted: February 05 2012 at 11:59

And here's another new car.

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Posted: February 05 2012 at 12:27

They're all adopting that similar nose design, I notice.

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Posted: February 05 2012 at 14:21

^Thats because the maximum height of the nose cone has been lowered by 50mm, but the monocoque front bulkhead hight has remained the same. Going with the step allows for more space under the nose for the airflow.

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Posted: February 05 2012 at 15:35

Ah yes I do love to see the yearly changes designed to slow the cars down, increase overtaking, or anything just to see them always fail because of those crafty engineers!
Of course the KERS and DRS helped but in terms of aerodynamics and stuff the results are the same every year LOL

Those damn engineers are just too smart!

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Posted: February 05 2012 at 16:20

sleeper wrote:

^Thats because the maximum height of the nose cone has been lowered by 50mm, but the monocoque front bulkhead hight has remained the same. Going with the step allows for more space under the nose for the airflow.

The new McLaren seems to not have that step though.

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Posted: February 05 2012 at 16:30

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The new McLaren seems to not have that step though.

No but they've made their chassis lower at the front anyway. It'll be the best looking car out there, but it might be compromised.

@Brian. This change is for safety. Somebody things that in the case of a t-bone crash the high nose mightgo over the side of the cockpit and impact with the drivers head, and that it might reduce the risk of a car riding over the back of one infront in an accident.

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Posted: February 05 2012 at 16:38

Not all of the cars have been announced yet. Maybe one of the others won't have the stepped front either?

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Posted: February 05 2012 at 23:03

Oh that's good but I do mean in general. Like the engine rules, and not only are they still consistent but still gain power. Or how they just always find a way to keep the car fast, stable, and difficult to pass no matter what the FIA tries. It's part of why I love F1 honestly!

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Posted: February 07 2012 at 05:39

F1 testing starts again today. Mercedes and HRT the only teams running 2011 cars and Marussia not running this week.

Raikkonen is making the early running at Jerez with 1:19.6, which is comparable to the best time set last year, thouhg apparently Lotus have a lot of sponsors in the paddock today.

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Posted: February 07 2012 at 17:44

Awww yeah can't wait!

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Posted: February 07 2012 at 18:20

Very early days yet in terms of testing. I expect it to be different when the season starts and even before that once all the cars are in race trim.

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Posted: February 08 2012 at 02:11

I meant a general can't wait
But naturally, I also can't wait to see Kimi back. Honestly (I must've said this at some point) my confidence isn't exactly soaring given his time off and the team not being that good, but I always said I thought in terms of pure skill he was the best out there (deff post schumi) so I look forward to seeing the challenge.

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Posted: February 08 2012 at 10:08

^Well, judging by his form yesterday I'm going to guess he's lost none of his out right pace and I wouldnt underestimate Lotus, they went the wrong way with the front blowing exhaust last year but the rest of the car was pretty sound.

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Posted: February 08 2012 at 10:14

Schumacher and Rosberg are in 2011s car, so I wouldn't look at today's times too much although was I right in seeing that they've made modifications?

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Posted: February 08 2012 at 13:57

sleeper wrote:

^Well, judging by his form yesterday I'm going to guess he's lost none of his out right pace and I wouldnt underestimate Lotus, they went the wrong way with the front blowing exhaust last year but the rest of the car was pretty sound.

Cautiously hopeful. I agree he doesn't seem to have lost any speed but also as James said, the race is a whole different beast.
And I don't know, just so I'm not confused LOL

this Lotus is the team that used to be Renault, correct?
They weren't bad by any means in 2011 but not too hot either, and before that they were better but Kubica and especially Alonso really outpaced teammates. Hey, I'll say Kimi will do fine! I expect nothing less from the flying finn

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Posted: February 08 2012 at 15:10

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Cautiously hopeful. I agree he doesn't seem to have lost any speed but also as James said, the race is a whole different beast.
And I don't know, just so I'm not confused LOL

Yes, this is the team that Kubica and Alonso used to drive for. The team that was Lotus is now Caterham, though both have kept the same colour schemes from last year.

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Posted: February 08 2012 at 15:12

James wrote:

Schumacher and Rosberg are in 2011s car, so I wouldn't look at today's times too much although was I right in seeing that they've made modifications?

Yeah, Mercedes are running a 2011 car with some 2012 parts on it. Rumour has it that they've got a trick front wing they dont want anyone to see too soon, hence the late arrival of the new car. Could of course be a complete load of nonsense.

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Posted: February 08 2012 at 15:21

So we shall see. A battle between Alonso and Kimi for the title would pretty much make my life LOL

I got some taste of it years ago but if I recall that was when McLaren had major reliability issues. I also remember the team filling his car to the brim with fuel to go as long as possible and he would still crank out fast quali laps and poles.
What a beast!

Damn, those 05, 06 seasons feel like sooo long ago now. Good times.

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Posted: February 08 2012 at 17:43

sleeper wrote:

James wrote:

Schumacher and Rosberg are in 2011s car, so I wouldn't look at today's times too much although was I right in seeing that they've made modifications?

I may have mistaken the car I saw but I'm sure I saw the stepped wing (dubbed Batman's Headgear by someone on the BBC) on the 2011 car, is that correct?

What on earth could they possibly pull out the bag that nobody else has thought of?

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Posted: February 09 2012 at 04:47

James wrote:

sleeper wrote:

James wrote:

Schumacher and Rosberg are in 2011s car, so I wouldn't look at today's times too much although was I right in seeing that they've made modifications?

Havent seen any mention of Batmans Headgear myself so I couldn't say. As for what they could pull out of the bag, thats what everybody else is worried about!

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