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Posted: April 13 2011 at 12:20
Deep Purple is complete band. The Doors always lacked any bassist (and 40 years actually their frontman too).
The Doors always sounds too elderly, mainly due to using vintage organs like Vox Continental, Wurlitzer, Gibson. On the other hand I like Hammond sound and Lord is its master, undoubtledly.
Gillan is an excellent singer with a wide range, concededly. Morrison was quite good singer, rather baritone with a expressive blues feeling. His lyrics and his stage presentation are invincible, on the other hand.
Ian Paice is better drummer than John Densmore, Ritchie Blackmore is one of Top Rock guitarists, thus I think surely better than Robby Krieger. Comparing of Glover or Hughes bass skills with Manzarek´s left hand on Fender Rhodes Bass Piano is useless, I mean.
Somebody told above that Doors are more progressive than Purples. OK in entirety, but their eponymous album (and the epic "April" especially) is probably more Prog than the whole Doors´ work.
Conclusion: Deep Purple is my choice!
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Posted: April 13 2011 at 14:02
The Dark Elf wrote:
Deep Purple were far better instrumentally, and I certainly loved them when I saw them in the 70s (one of the loudest damn concerts I've ever been too), but from a compositional and lyrical point of view, they don't hold a candle to The Doors. No single person best represents the music of the 60s than Jim Morrison.
I pretty much agree with all of this. never saw purple in Concert though :)
but I can't vote against either because there are so many songs I absolutely love
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Posted: April 13 2011 at 16:11
richardh wrote:
One band that has me scurrying to the off switch on the radio is The Doors. Them and Iggy Pop.
Deep Purple get my vote although anything (other than Iggy Pop) versus The Doors would get my vote.
Well, I knew our tastes are different, but switching off whenever the Doors appear on the radio? They made some truly brilliant songs, and I actually like their short ones too, not only those that have prog length. Your taste really is weird.
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Posted: April 14 2011 at 02:01
BaldFriede wrote:
richardh wrote:
One band that has me scurrying to the off switch on the radio is The Doors. Them and Iggy Pop.
Deep Purple get my vote although anything (other than Iggy Pop) versus The Doors would get my vote.
Well, I knew our tastes are different, but switching off whenever the Doors appear on the radio? They made some truly brilliant songs, and I actually like their short ones too, not only those that have prog length. Your taste really is weird.
I suspect the opposite is true and that my taste is rather boring and safe. Never really got The Doors and part of the problem is that there are only about 4 songs of theirs that I'm familiar with:
Light My Fire
Riders On The Storm
City At Night
People Are Strange
Light My Fire is okay I admit. I probably would keep the radio on for that one. Riders gets loads of praise yet Morrison's voice just sounds 'shot' to me and most of the song is Manzarek tinkling away on a piano and the sound of rain in the background.
City At Night gets load of play on Planet Rock but I find it just very dull.
People Are Strange - well that sums me up I guess
I just find The Doors very underwelming in general and because I only ever hear the same 4 songs on the radio ,makes me wonder why that are considered to be so great in the grand scheme of things.
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Posted: April 14 2011 at 02:34
harmonium.ro wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
Deep Purple is complete band. The Doors always lacked any bassist (and 40 years actually their frontman too).
They recorded the albums with guest bassists, I would have expected you knew that.
Guest bassists! How ridiculous!
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Posted: April 14 2011 at 03:18
Billy Pilgrim wrote:
No contest whatsoever, Doors all the way. Jim Morrison is one of the most important people in rock history, and he didn't write smoke on the water.
He´d smoked on the water only.
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Posted: April 14 2011 at 04:29
richardh wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
richardh wrote:
One band that has me
scurrying to the off switch on the radio is The Doors. Them and Iggy
Pop.
Deep Purple get my vote although anything (other than Iggy Pop) versus The Doors would get my vote.
Well,
I knew our tastes are different, but switching off whenever the Doors
appear on the radio? They made some truly brilliant songs, and I
actually like their short ones too, not only those that have prog
length. Your taste really is weird.
I suspect the opposite is true and that my taste is rather boring
and safe. Never really got The Doors and part of the problem is that
there are only about 4 songs of theirs that I'm familiar with:
Light My Fire
Riders On The Storm
City At Night
People Are Strange
Light My Fire is okay I admit. I probably would keep the radio on
for that one. Riders gets loads of praise yet Morrison's voice just
sounds 'shot' to me and most of the song is Manzarek tinkling away on a
piano and the sound of rain in the background.
City At Night gets load of play on Planet Rock but I find it just very dull.
People Are Strange - well that sums me up I guess
I just find The Doors very underwelming in general and because
I only ever hear the same 4 songs on the radio ,makes me wonder why that
are considered to be so great in the grand scheme of things.
That "tinkling" has been called one of the best e-piano solos ever by
many people who know what they are talking about! And there is a lot of
fine guitar and drum work on that song too; Robbie Krieger and John
Densmore are very underestimasted as musicxians. Densmore is an
excellent drummer with very original ideas,and krieger's scales are
surprisingly jazzy for that time., not only in "Eiders On the Storm".
And you never heard "When the Music's Over" or "The End"? Well, here is you chance for that:
But I am almost certain that these two songs won't change your view of
the Doors at all, because you look for something else in music which the
Doors don't give you, like beautiful melodies and harmonies. You may be
surprised, but I love beautiful melodies and harmonies too, though I
rarely speak about that (with exceptions, like when I praise Peter
Hammill's opera "The Fall of the House of Usher").
But always beauty and nothing but beauty is extremely boring, in my
opinion; I seek the wild, the disharmonic, the ugly too, and you don't.
Hence for example your disapproval of jazz, where wild and disharmonic
is quite usual. And the Doors in these two songs are extremely jazzy for
their time; Densmore's drumming is definitely the drumming of a jazz
drummer in these two tracks, and so are the scales of Manzarek and
Krieger, especially Krieger.
My love of the disharmonic definitely comes from how I grew up with
music; I was confronted with both harmony and disharmony at the same
time. Krautrock and Symphonic Prog both were on the turntable of my
brother, as well as jazz-rock and jazz. And classical music too, though
that a bit later, when I was six or seven already. Indian ragas were
mixed in too, and had African or Arabian music been easier available at
that time I am certain my brother would have listened to that too, and I
with him, of course.
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Posted: April 14 2011 at 05:10
Such a comparison gave me a jolt; I don't dislike Deep Purple, fine musicians, but so far away from being innovators and trail-blazers (I well remember seeing them at the Reading festival wearing frilly orange shirts and singing "Hush") it's very difficult to understand how they can be put alongside the Doors, who, while not particularly noted for their musicianship - only perhaps Manzarek was a first-rate musician - were definitely completely original, artistic, challenging etc. Despite the irony of the names, it was the Doors who were Deep, not Purple.
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