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Adams Bolero 
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 Posted: November 29 2010 at 06:31 |
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The Wall of Pink Floyd.
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 07:32 |
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When they turned in to David Gilmour Band
Edited by Hawkwise - November 29 2010 at 07:33
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 08:13 |
Dont know if the fell or not, but I lost a lot of interest after Animals. Some good things after that, but nothing like before. Loved the film as a film though.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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paganinio
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 08:51 |
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The Fall of Pink Floyd: here's my side of the story.
Pink Floyd ruled 1971-79.
And then in 1980, a post-punk band called The Fall took over, along with other post-punk bands.
That's when Pink Floyd, as well as other prog bands, fell.
Post-punk rose and prog fell. That's the long story short.
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 08:56 |
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I don't think they had a "fall". Their masterpiece era was from Ummagumma to Wish You Were Here. After this, The Wall and A Momentary Lapse of Reason were lesser albums, but still good. The Final Cut and The Division Bell form the evidence that they did not fall, although these albums are no real context for their best 1969-75 output.
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 09:13 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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infandous
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 09:41 |
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I'd say, considering the enduring popularity of Floyd (arguably the only prog band to have such universal and prolonged popularity), that they never fell. I wasn't crazy about the post-Waters albums, but the Division Bell is a nice psudo-Floyd album that at least has reminders of what made them so great, and at best is not their worse album (even considering the ones with Waters). Final Cut is a great Waters solo album, with Gilmour and Mason as guests.
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lazland
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 09:42 |
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I'd say, considering the enduring popularity of Floyd (arguably the only prog band to have such universal and prolonged popularity), that they never fell. I wasn't crazy about the post-Waters albums, but the Division Bell is a nice psudo-Floyd album that at least has reminders of what made them so great, and at best is not their worse album (even considering the ones with Waters). Final Cut is a great Waters solo album, with Gilmour and Mason as guests.
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 14:48 |
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I'd say my interest falls dramatically after Pompeii/Obscured by Clouds. Everything Dark Side on is overplayed and boring except Animals, which is superb IMO.
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 14:49 |
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Floyd never fell.
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 14:53 |
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They never fell!
They changed from album to album and they managed to surprise me everytime. They never got stuck with a formula, didn't make the same album over and over.
I also think that their eighties output was better than most of their peers' , and so was The Division Bell from the nineties.
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 14:54 |
The Wall fell at the end of the Wall.
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 15:18 |
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They dissipated just like any other band, from the inside. It even happened to The Beatles. Roger Waters sort of took over the band, and David Gilmour hated that which fueled a grudge between them. Meanwhile Richard Wright became unmotivated and uninspired and was ultimately fired. Plus they lost a lot of money on tours, etc, etc, etc... It's no mystery.
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Posted: November 30 2010 at 10:44 |
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After Animals.
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Posted: November 30 2010 at 10:51 |
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In all honesty, I would have not really enjoyed The Wall had the movie not gone along with it. The Final Cut just sounded like outtakes from The Wall. 45 minutes of continuous whining by RW. Come to think of it, Animals doesn't do much for me. Wish You Were Here has the 3rd best campfire song ever. Dark Side would be fine if it wasn't so freaking overplayed. Meddle is the only one that I can't live without.
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lazland
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Posted: November 30 2010 at 13:22 |
paganinio wrote:
The Fall of Pink Floyd: here's my side of the story.
Pink Floyd ruled 1971-79.
And then in 1980, a post-punk band called The Fall took over, along with other post-punk bands.
That's when Pink Floyd, as well as other prog bands, fell.
Post-punk rose and prog fell. That's the long story short.
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Are you seriously suggesting the The Fall took over Floyd's mantle?  They were fairly big for a while, and still are in Mark E Smith's twisted ego, but replace Floyd? Come on. If anything, in the 1980's, in spite of critical panning from the trendy media (who LOVED The Fall BTW), prog bands such as Floyd, Genesis, and Yes, with newer bands such as Marillion sold LPs and gigs by the shedful. Commercially, they were still doing extremely well. Also, prog is still a very healthy scene. Post punk most certainly isn't.
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Posted: November 30 2010 at 15:00 |
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Piper, Saucerful and AHM are the only PF albums I really enjoy. So after that I guess.
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Posted: November 30 2010 at 15:46 |
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When do you think the fall occured? Or do you pretend they did not fell? |
Wish You Were Here.
And if their two songs "Welcome to the Machine" and then "Have a Cigar" don't tell you all of it ... you are not listening to the words! They were pist at the record company for being forced to do something closer to the concept of Dark Side of the Moon, than they were in doing the material that they already had been playing in concert for at least a year! ... which finally appeared in "Animals" ...
That is not to discredit things like "The Wall" at all ... and I think that Roger decided to do something even bigger to get back at the record company ... but by that time, so much money was rolling in and DSOTM was still on the charts that no record company was going to say NO to Pink Floyd ever again ... because the contract would die that very second!
In the end, PF even gave in to the record company and the film company. Material, pictures and visuals that ended up in "The Final Cut" were a part of "The Wall", that would have made it way too long and force it onto 3 LP's and it was hard enough to sell double LP's, let alone triples in those days ... and you pretty much could only use about 80 to 90 minutes tops for the whole thing!
Were it today, the day and age of the CD, the material of "The Final Cut" would be much more integrated into "The Wall" ... and it has ... the political nature of it is quite visible in the current version of "The Wall" ... which apparently Roger wanted in the other shows but had to be curtailed for both financial reasons and the length of the work.
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Posted: November 30 2010 at 16:19 |
Jake Kobrin wrote:
They dissipated just like any other band, from the inside. It even happened to The Beatles. Roger Waters sort of took over the band, and David Gilmour hated that which fueled a grudge between them. Meanwhile Richard Wright became unmotivated and uninspired and was ultimately fired. Plus they lost a lot of money on tours, etc, etc, etc... It's no mystery. |
This sounds about right. Should've stopped after A Momentary Lapse of Reason (not that it's so outstanding it's a winner to go out on, but it proved they could go on successfully without Waters). The Division Bell is lesser, and had they continued, no doubt some downright embarassing stuff would've resulted.
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