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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 13:51
I think the Beatles got the perfect combination of styles and song writing.I actually think if they were to become more progressive they would of had less of an impact I can only imagine them sounding more along the lines of the moody blues/early Floyd and replace screaming teenage girls with middle aged bearded men possibly screaming equally as loud.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 18:14
I believe Lennon told the press if they wanted to hear what a new Beatles album would sound like he said look no further than a Wings recording. Not sure if that was a jest on Lennon's part considering his aversion to Paul at the time but I think it is interesting considering the topic

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 18:40
 ^ well we know Lennon very much liked Band on the Run


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2009 at 18:30
If The Beatles kept going Prog they could sound like King Crimson's Thrak (Dinosaur, Walking on Air, People, Sex Sleep Eat Drink Dream) or may be like Nektar's Remember the Future
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2009 at 18:35
Or, who knows, like Tears for Fears' Elemental
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2009 at 19:22
Originally posted by mr.cub mr.cub wrote:

I believe Lennon told the press if they wanted to hear what a new Beatles album would sound like he said look no further than a Wings recording. Not sure if that was a jest on Lennon's part considering his aversion to Paul at the time but I think it is interesting considering the topic


I always thought it was Harrison who said that, and I always had the feeling he didn't mean it in a good way.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2009 at 19:38
Originally posted by Leftoverture Leftoverture wrote:

sorry if this has been done, but
 
we were discussing at work whether or not the Beatles would have started to make "prog" albums in the early 70's like many contemporaries did. I for one see it going either way. Let It Be was throwback, but the masterpieces like Sgt Peppers and MMT led the way for prog. The sum of what those for did on solo albums suggests that they wouldnt have, but with studio wizardry and the way those 4 made music, I think we missed out on maybe an even better prog masterpeice than DSOTM. I dunno, do you guys think they'd have gone there?

Well, they did start to make prog albums back in the late '60's.  Not a uniform point of agreement on PA .  I think Hendrix would have gone more in a jazz/rock-fusion direction. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 06:50
Best two example of what I envisage a Beatles song might have sounded like had they survived into the prog years would have to be:

(McCartney) re  Counting Out Time from the Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
(Lennon) re Sex, Sleep, Eat. Drink. Dream by King Crimson

Both still unashamedly poppy but cut from more sophisticated cloth than that of the fab four's heyday.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 16:01
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:


Well, they did start to make prog albums back in the late '60's.  Not a uniform point of agreement on PA .  I think Hendrix would have gone more in a jazz/rock-fusion direction. 


Mmmmm... Dubious. I think he would have tried a return to the blues, a bit of free-jazz, sometimes jazz-rock or even a fusion of hard-rock and funk.
He wouldn't have sticked to one genre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 18:18
Guys, they could have gone anywhere. They went from a rock and roll band, to a psych band, and then a prog band in a matter of 7 years. If they went on for another 20 they might be making electronic for all we know!Tongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 18:19
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:


Well, they did start to make prog albums back in the late '60's.  Not a uniform point of agreement on PA .  I think Hendrix would have gone more in a jazz/rock-fusion direction. 


Mmmmm... Dubious. I think he would have tried a return to the blues, a bit of free-jazz, sometimes jazz-rock or even a fusion of hard-rock and funk.
He wouldn't have sticked to one genre.

Dubious? Dubious? LOL  Yet, you're kind of agreeing with me.  I do think you're right that he probably would gone diverse.

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

If they went on for another 20 they might be making electronic for all we know!Tongue

OK that's a scary thought.


Edited by Slartibartfast - September 03 2009 at 18:21
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 18:27
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:


Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

If they went on for another 20 they might be making electronic for all we know!Tongue

OK that's a scary thought.


I agreeLOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2009 at 12:08
I was discussing the same thing with some friends of mine who are big fans of the Beatles. One of them agreed and thought they had the potential. I believe they started to develop a "proggish" sound near the end of the 60s during the recording of Abbey Road and Let It Be. One can argue it started as early as the White album. I think it would have been very interesting had they continued on much longer. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2009 at 16:39
I think that if The beatles kept going, probably they have ended playing some high quality 70's rock stadium music, and at the same time playing some AOR music, too.
 
 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2009 at 10:12
Anything that is pop that is rock related or experimental  with the Beatles migh have started and that includes crossover prog which about half of Abbey Road is. Now that should be put to a poll.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2009 at 23:10
I think they may well have gone even more progressive, yes. 

Look at sixties Pink Floyd. Or Yes, for that matter. Both, in the late 60s, were playing psychedelic music. By the dawn of the seventies, both had morphed into prog. 

The Beatles kind of already were prog. If Sgt Pepper, or The White Album isn't progressive, then what the heck is? 

If you look at another of their contemporaries, The Who, we have a band which went from Mod rockers, to psychedelia, to rock operas, to disco-ish (the Who are You? era), in the space of a decade. 

So its hard to predict where the Beatles may have gone. One of the most rewarding aspects of following a band's career, is to see how they have changed over the years (unless its someone like AC/DC, who release the same record every time!). Be careful what you wish for, though. It's better the Beatles ending when they did, rather than possibly turning into AOR tryhards had they survived into the 80s!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2009 at 17:10
Well, in my opinion, they DID go Prog. Crossover Prog fits them perfectly, because there are plenty of Space-Rock, Symphonic Prog and RIO/Avant-Prog present in their later works to warrant that. However, there is still more Pop than Prog in their entire catalogue. So Crossover is where I consider them fitting.

It will never happen, though. Why? Because too many people here woul get their panties in a wad if their precious Prog genere were 'tainted' by the fab four. Unfortunate, because listening to tracks like A Day In the Life, Elanor Rigby, Revolution 9, Tomorrow Never Knows, Piggies, Goodnight, Come Together, etc. I can clearly hear the Prog Rock as plain as day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2009 at 17:16
Originally posted by Jozef Jozef wrote:

. . . One can argue it started as early as the White album . . .


I don't even think that's arguable-- they WERE a Prog band by that point in their career. Have you not heard ''Revolution 9''? Hell, they were even Progressive in many ways by the time Revolver came out. And let us not forget they beat The Moody Blues by a few months in releasing the first concept album.

To say they only became merely 'proggish' by their last album, then say that it's only arguable that maybe The White Album was when it began, is being very unfair to them.

Originally posted by Kashmir75 Kashmir75 wrote:

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The Beatles kind of already were prog. If Sgt Pepper, or The White Album isn't progressive, then what the heck is? 


I rest my case.


Edited by p0mt3 - September 15 2009 at 17:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2009 at 18:37
I thought this was kind of a fun idea...

http://www.helium.com/items/1104862-speculating-what-songs-would-have-been-on-the-beatles-next-album

Obviously this can't be really accurate, but some of these songs from the Beatles' first or second solo records, I can see fitting onto what could have been the "next Beatles album"...

1. Instant Karma
2. Uncle Albert
3. All Things Must Pass
4. Imagine
5. Every Night
6. I'd Have You Anytime
7. Love
8. Junk
9. What Is Life

I dunno!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 01:36
Originally posted by SgtPepper67 SgtPepper67 wrote:

Originally posted by mr.cub mr.cub wrote:

I believe Lennon told the press if they wanted to hear what a new Beatles album would sound like he said look no further than a Wings recording. Not sure if that was a jest on Lennon's part considering his aversion to Paul at the time but I think it is interesting considering the topic


I always thought it was Harrison who said that, and I always had the feeling he didn't mean it in a good way.
 
I seem to remember John saying it as well.  It's been a while but did both John and Paul record a song on their solo stuff against the other?  Wish I could remember which songs they were.
 
Either way, for the Beatles to have stayed together, they would have had to get along which would have made them more cooperative at least.  Considering the different style each member went after the break up, they would have had to be prog just to stay in key with each other.
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