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Yorkie X 
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 Posted: November 24 2007 at 11:11 |
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DT are a great band but I think they need more acoustic guitar and less chunk and balls
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 11:15 |
I wouldn't be devastated if Labrie left as I don't think he's in the same class as the rest of the band and a stronger vocalist could make all the difference.
Stronger melodies wouldn't go amiss at times either.
Despite that I still think they're a hell of a good band and just about the best in the Prog Metal genre today.
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rileydog22
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 12:11 |
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Yes! Another Dream Theater thread! I can't get enough of these!
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 12:17 |
/\ oh come on, it's been a little while  as for me, I like all their output for the most part, except when they're trying to be "overly metal"....Train of Thought is an example of this gone awry. I did like the new album though and felt it was a step in the right direction, despite some missteps along the way (Constant Motion and Forsaken come to mind, neither of which is horrendous but could've been left off the album and I would have been fine)
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rileydog22
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 12:19 |
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I think they should add more GUITAR SOLOS! Petrucci is liek god so I don't get why they dont just put out albums of him soloing cause hes the best guitarist evr or mabye an album of drum soloz cause dude portnoy is amazing.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 12:29 |
 rileydog22 wrote:
I think they should add more GUITAR SOLOS! Petrucci is liek god so I don't get why they dont just put out albums of him soloing cause hes the best guitarist evr or mabye an album of drum soloz cause dude portnoy is amazing.
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I doubt whether sarcasm will help ... and fortunately the typical DT fan isn't like you describe it. 
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Tapfret
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 12:38 |
They need more:
And less:
The last DT I bought was Train of Thougt which just bored me to tears when it wasn't annoying me. Jumping on the suburban-upper-middleclass-whiteboy-rap-metal thing was particularly hideous. And really, throughout their career (except "Scenes from a Memory") I find they have been unable to slow things down without sounding generic hair metal to AOR and uninspired. And its not that I don't like having slower moments I just want to hear it done less formulaic.
And seriously, I grow weary of the technicality = lack of feeling concept. Its all very subjective and in the case of Dream Theater what people call emotion I call boring and unlistenable. Its true that contrast is very important. But even the quietest moments can be done with skill, exploration and without trying to cater to the mainstream. Right now they are far from the best thing that progmetal has to offer.
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ProgBagel
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 14:45 |
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I think Rudess needs the boot. Brilliant keyboard player, but has gone to far in chops. Not saying I want Petrucci to have the spotlight...but having an insane guitar then keyboard solo is getting old. I prefer a symphonic one like Kevin Moore.
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docsolar
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 22:53 |
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I actually feel like Rudess' contributions need to be more pronounced in the music like in Metropolis 2 and Six Degrees...with those albums (especially 6), you can tell that Rudess is contributing the melodies and other symphonicness that the band needs in order to be successful in avoiding things like "Constant Motion".
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micky
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 00:19 |
ProgBagel wrote:
I think Rudess needs the boot. Brilliant keyboard
player, but has gone to far in chops. Not saying I want Petrucci to
have the spotlight...but having an insane guitar then keyboard solo is
getting old. I prefer a symphonic one like Kevin Moore. |
don't just stop with Rudess... they all need the boot (but Myung
perhaps.. he has the good sense to remain..errrr.. silent hhahahha)
..... a little less soloing.. and a bit more playing together as
a band.. not a vehicle for insane guitar...and insane keyboard
solos.. it has to get tiring after awhile for even the most
acne-scarred of DT fans...
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Harry Hood
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 00:25 |
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Make however many albums they need with Roadrunner and get a deal with a label like InsideOut.
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 00:29 |
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Better ideas.
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rushfan4
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 00:30 |
 InsideOut is one of the best prog rock labels out there in my opinion. I am sure that they would be thrilled to have the real thing with all of the similar bands like Vanden Plas that they now have on their label.
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 00:47 |
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you all aren't blaming the record company for any problems DT are
having are you all... this group should have creative control over it's
own music.. if they don't... then it is their own damn fault.. god
knows how many albums they have sold. and are an established group.. if
they felf they were stiffled in the studio... they easily.. as many
artists have done in the past... create their own label... especially
in the internet age.
The only problems I have heard of with their current company are
distribution and promotion.... not creative control. Unless I
just hadn't hadn't heard of it.. .I haven't checked their fan websites
in like..err....ever hahhahah.
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 00:57 |
Hey Micky, I agree to disagree with you when it comes to Dream Theater. Your dislike for them is well-established. InsideOut Music is my favorite prog rock label. I pretty religiously follow their new releases and I just feel that Dream Theater would be a crown jewel for the types of bands that InsideOut Music carries. And yes I frequently hear artists on this label claim that they are given complete freedom with their music. As far as distribution goes, InsideOut could be better, but many of their new releases are quite easy to find at any superstore like Best Buy, Circuit City or FYE.
When it comes to Roadrunner Records the first band that comes to mind is Nickelback. Decent band IMO. but in relatively few other opinions here, but most definitely not prog.
The only thing that would make DT sound better for you is if they started singing in Italian like your beloved RPI bands.
Edited by rushfan4 - November 25 2007 at 00:58
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rileydog22
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 01:01 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Hey Micky, I agree to disagree with you when it comes to Dream Theater. Your dislike for them is well-established. InsideOut Music is my favorite prog rock label. I pretty religiously follow their new releases and I just feel that Dream Theater would be a crown jewel for the types of bands that InsideOut Music carries. And yes I frequently hear artists on this label claim that they are given complete freedom with their music. As far as distribution goes, InsideOut could be better, but many of their new releases are quite easy to find at any superstore like Best Buy, Circuit City or FYE.
When it comes to Roadrunner Records the first band that comes to mind is Nickelback. Decent band IMO. but in relatively few other opinions here, but most definitely not prog.
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...but DT's music wouldn't change significantly from the switch.
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Harry Hood
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 01:01 |
I can just imagine Derek Shulman , in a big expensive suit, chomping a cigar, walking into the studio as the band rehearses "Dark Eternal Night":
"This sounds pretty good, but have you heard of a band called Slipknot? They're on the label too, the kids love 'em. You guys should try to sound more like them."
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micky
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 01:06 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Hey Micky, I agree to disagree with you when
it comes to Dream Theater. Your dislike for them is
well-established. InsideOut Music is my favorite prog rock
label. I pretty religiously follow their new releases and I just
feel that Dream Theater would be a crown jewel for the types of bands
that InsideOut Music carries. And yes I frequently hear artists
on this label claim that they are given complete freedom with their
music. As far as distribution goes, InsideOut could be better,
but many of their new releases are quite easy to find at any
superstore like Best Buy, Circuit City or FYE.
When it comes to Roadrunner Records the first band that comes to
mind is Nickelback. Decent band IMO. but in relatively few other
opinions here, but most definitely not prog.
The only thing that would make DT sound better for you is if they started singing in Italian like your beloved RPI bands. |
oh no... don't misunderstand me.... while I'd never pass up a
chance to take a cheap shot at them.... I have never liked them.. and
never wil... but the several people in this thread who DO mentioned a
decline over the last couple of albums... my point in my previous
post was a serious..a genuine one.. that IF that was the case.. that
changing the label. .is not going to help that situation at
all. Face it ... ALL artist have a creative shelf-life
before they start becoming formulamatic or just going through the
motions. Sure it might be that DT would be a crown jewel at
InsideOut.. but will that stop the decay of the group... help them
create something different from the same old highly technical .. solo
filled music that may impress at first.. but can only impress so many
times before it gets old.
Edited by micky - November 25 2007 at 01:07
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rushfan4
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 01:06 |
rileydog22 wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
Hey Micky, I agree to disagree with you when it comes to Dream Theater. Your dislike for them is well-established. InsideOut Music is my favorite prog rock label. I pretty religiously follow their new releases and I just feel that Dream Theater would be a crown jewel for the types of bands that InsideOut Music carries. And yes I frequently hear artists on this label claim that they are given complete freedom with their music. As far as distribution goes, InsideOut could be better, but many of their new releases are quite easy to find at any superstore like Best Buy, Circuit City or FYE.
When it comes to Roadrunner Records the first band that comes to mind is Nickelback. Decent band IMO. but in relatively few other opinions here, but most definitely not prog. |
...but DT's music wouldn't change significantly from the switch.
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Agreed. Thank you for completing that part of my thought (if that was your intent).
Asking DT to change their sound is almost as silly as asking Opeth to release metal albums with clean vocals. Oh, wait, I wholeheartedly supported that idea and was shot down by three quarters of the members on PA. 
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ProgBagel
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:23 |
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