Your theory about Moonchild

Perhaps it really is a psychedelic (or psychotic? look at 21st Century Schizoid Man) journey, intended to be by the band for several months or weeks before they created the album. Perhaps it really is a meaningless bunch of odd percussion and stuff... ;D Wow, I can't say anything else.... I can therefore define Prog:

Prog is conjecture.

febus wrote: Do we still need to analyse a 1969 piece of music over some 38 years layer? overthinking can kill, you know!!!   Just enjoy if you like it or play Enrique Iglesias if you don't! that'it

My theory is that Bobby Fripp slumped over with a sudden heart attack, striking a serious of bells on his way down. And he was, like 83 stories off the ground.

Hmmm, has nobody heard L'Infonie's originally self-titled 1969 album (commonly now known as Volume 3)?  This album consists of a lot avant-garde and dissonant noises and is quite akin to parts of Centipede's Septober Energy and Ovary Lodge's self-titled debut.  King Crimson were not alone in being "innovative" with such improvisation (if that is what it is).  I do not believe the ending to "Moonchild" was improvised at all.  Indeed, I believe it to be an actual pre-meditated concept.  Whoever believes the band had run out of ideas, is flatly incorrect with their thoughts.

Geck0 wrote: Hmmm, has nobody heard L'Infonie's originally self-titled 1969 album (commonly now known as Volume 3)?  This album consists of a lot avant-garde and dissonant noises and is quite akin to parts of Centipede's Septober Energy and Ovary Lodge's self-titled debut.  King Crimson were not alone in being "innovative" with such improvisation (if that is what it is).  I do not believe the ending to "Moonchild" was improvised at all.  Indeed, I believe it to be an actual pre-meditated concept.  Whoever believes the band had run out of ideas, is flatly incorrect with their thoughts.

oliverstoned wrote: It is. It's just a matter of level of consiousness...you know what i mean...

Like what, that they were, uh , too stoned to notice how long they'd gone on

Sean Trane wrote: Geck0 wrote: Hmmm, has nobody heard L'Infonie's originally self-titled 1969 album (commonly now known as Volume 3)?  This album consists of a lot avant-garde and dissonant noises and is quite akin to parts of Centipede's Septober Energy and Ovary Lodge's self-titled debut.  King Crimson were not alone in being "innovative" with such improvisation (if that is what it is).  I do not believe the ending to "Moonchild" was improvised at all.  Indeed, I believe it to be an actual pre-meditated concept.  Whoever believes the band had run out of ideas, is flatly incorrect with their thoughts. I also don't think Moonchild was improvised. It is most likely their conception of musique concrete or the rock equivalent of free jazz.

Maybe they planned to improvise.

oliverstoned wrote: The long experimental part of Moonchild is beautiful and fascinating!

I couldn't agree more!

It's one of the most enjoyable things in the world to just sit with an instrument and play something far away from what you know, for me anyway!

They had the guts to record it and put it on a debut rock album - better still!

And I enjoy that part maybe even better than the "song" part. If we all liked the same thing wouldn't life be dull?

FragileDT wrote: I love the noise in moonchild.

me too

i dont know why people hate it

Froth wrote: i think you have to understand that the late 60s were very different times to now, musically. The sky was the limit and KC were really trying to experiment. We're all too cynicall to appreichiate that now though. back then, innovative music was more than just "technically demanding solos". of course, now in the 21st century, peopl like music to be dead boring and all like is to see "progressive" bands impress them with solos, so no one is interested in moonchild, or the superb studio side of ummagumma, or any "progrock" thats any good. no wonder yes and rush carried on selling out stadiums long after art rock was deemed unfashionable, we just all decided that boring music was better than good, innovative, great music. the end

I agree with what you are saying about experimentation. I do appreciate what KC was trying to do with "Moonchild," and what Pink Floyd was aiming for on "Ummagumma." However, experiments are just that. They are not always successful. So I can appreciate these works, and not like them at the same time.