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andrea
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Thank you for the "positive" feed-back. Anyway, when Tony edited the article all the notes got lost... So, now that the problems with the browser seem to be over, I will post the article again...
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andrea
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Posted: January 29 2007 at 10:20 | |
THE ITALIANPROG EXPLAINED TO MY LITTLE COUSINS DOWNUNDER SUMMARY: 1) Foreword; 2) The origins of Italian Progressive Rock; 3) The Golden Age of Italian Progressive Rock; 3.1) Italian Progressive Rock and society; 3.2) Italian Progressive Rock and politics; 3.3) Italian Progressive Rock and public security; 4) The decline and the tunnel of the Eighties; 5) The come-back of the Nineties and the present scene. 1) Foreword The first time I visited my relatives in 2) The origins of Italian Progressive Rock At the end of the Sixties in Franz Di Cioccio, drummer of Premiata Forneria Marconi: - There’s not a specific date that marks the beginning of the first wave of Italian Progressive Rock in the Seventies. Musical influences were coming from The Golden Age of the Italian Progressive Rock was rising. Gianni Leone, keyboardist and singer of Il Balletto di Bronzo: - In 3) The Golden Age of Italian Progressive Rock From 1972 to 1975 almost everybody in However it would be limiting to consider as specific characteristics of the Italianprog scene only the musical influences and the alchemies of the different blending between rock, classical music, jazz, Italian folklore and so on. Inside the albums of that period you could find attempts to blend music with literature, poetry, politics and social comment as well. Sometimes the results were excellent, some other times only confused and pretentious. Ivano Fossati: - It was the tendency of those years: to complicate all that was simple and that could have been even very simple. The albums of that period were odd, contorted and complex, following the English models, King Crimson above of all [11]. Inside the tracks of an album you could often find fragments of classical composers like Scarlatti, Bach, Vivaldi or Corelli. The albums used to have complex structures and usually they were very far from “easy listening”. Italian melody often used to drop out in the singing parts, while in the lyrics you could find a little bit of everything, from Wolf Biermann’s lieder to passages from the Gospels, from the philosophy of Nietzsche to the poetry of Lodovico Ariosto and son and on. Ivano Fossati: - We loved giving hidden meanings to everything, and we used to do it in full sincerity, not just to plagiarise other bands. The albums of the early Seventies were very rich in ideas, although not all the ideas were good, because the “group” was considered like a gymnasium where everybody had the right to train. The political climate of those years contributed very much to strengthen this concept. The group was a democratic institution, every member could bring in an idea and ask the others to develop it. There was a lot of inexperience and ingenuity, but also a little bit of pretentiousness, due to the enthusiasm coming from the chance to record and release an album. There were no plans, that’s it. It’s different from today where you demonstrate your knowledge just to strike the public. The debut albums of that period where like stores. You used to put into them all that that you had listen at, all that you had read. Indeed all that you could! [12]. In the early Seventies there were many “pop” festivals in 3.1) Italian Progressive Rock and society In the early Seventies Italian society was going through a period of deep crisis and turmoil. Since 1968 students and workers unions strikes and riots had been becoming more and more violent. “ I don’t think that this is the best place where to try to explain “gli anni di piombo”, “the years of lead”, but it’s normal that such a kind of atmosphere had a deep influence also on the more committed young musical scene, the progressive rock scene. Vittorio Nocenzi: - It was such a peculiar decade, so rich that it would be limiting speak only of just one thing. I should speak more properly of a mosaic, a puzzle, a great labyrinth made of large boulevards and narrow alleys, of horizons to reach by running that seemed so near and suddenly were hidden by hedges coming from nowhere. It was a period of great and general utopia, amazing but not to celebrate in a nostalgic way because the future is more precious than the past if you look at it with eyes drenched with desire. Another thing is the past if you look at it like a lesson to learn, in this case you have to keep it in your mind [19]. Songs used to reflect the times but despite the omnipresent violence in the streets, lyrics of Italian progressive scene are never trivial and the music is sometimes so sweet to seem surreal (nothing to share with Eminem’s style, indeed!). Just a few examples: “Terra in bocca (poesia di un delitto)” of I Giganti, a whole album inspired by a murder of Mafia and “Canto nomade per un prigioniero politico” of Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, inspired by Salvador Allende’s death during the coup of 3.2) Italian Progressive Rock and politics The political contraposition in It would be wrong, however, to think that the whole Italian scene of the Anyway, the artists that didn’t take a position used to receive harsh criticism by the militant critics, like in the case of Il Volo, a band that collaborated with the singer-songwriter Lucio Battisti and lyricist Mogol who were accused of being supporters of the right wing (though this wasn’t really true). Alberto Radius, guitarist of Formula 3 and Il Volo: - The critics in that period were strongly influenced by political ideologies: Bertoncelli, Massarini Giaccio were all excellent critics, but militant. According to them Mogol was a fascist and Lucio used to do the Roman salute, so they were constantly criticized. And then they had to expiate their most serious guilt according to the militant critics of the left wing: they were to become billionaires [29]. Things got even worse for Museo Rosenbach, a band that was openly accused of fascism and practically forced to quit the scene because of the art cover of their album “Zarathustra” and because of their lyrics inspired by the philosopher Friederich Nietzsche. Alberto Moreno, bassist of Museo Rosenbach: - The seventies had been extremely politicized, but these issues were own business of the single members of the band. Muso Rosenbach, as a group, used to follow only a musical path, bound to English and American pop-rock or Italian bands like PFM and BMS. Area were open sided but they were an exception among the bands. We were aware of their commitment but we never thought to counterpoint their commitment with right wing oriented proposals... The face of Mussolini on the album cover was a choice of the art designer. The references to Nietzsche instead were clear and they were an important part of our message. On the original album jacket we tried to explain that you shouldn’t interpret Nietzsche as one of the inspirers of Nazism like they used to do in those years. We used to read the philosopher in a “softer” way, without any forced political interpretations. Unfortunately our explanation wasn’t understood and we realized that sometimes images are more important than words. I admit that the black of the art cover and the bust of Mussolini didn’t help us. But we have paid for these ingenuities [30]. As I said before, Italian Progressive Rock was one of the voices of a whole generation, not only of the young people that were part of the political movements of the Italian left wing, and thus it was appreciated and practised also by the youth of the right wing, though with more difficulties. Marcello Vento, drummer of Alberomotore and Canzoniere del Lazio: - Once they called us to perform in 3.3) Italian Progressive Rock and public security One of the characteristics of the Italian musical scene of the Seventies, unfortunately not enticing at all, consisted of the delicate situation of public security at rock concerts. Shouting “Riprendiamoci la musica” (Let’s take the music back), groups of exalted people (called “autoriduttori”) used to claim the right to attend rock concerts without paying the ticket. They ended up constantly in conflict and fighting against the managers who organised the concerts and the police. “The situation exploded finally on the 5th of June 1971 at “Velodromo Vigorelli” in There were troubles at almost every concert, not only at those of the most important bands, and for this reason the live performances of the Italian bands was not very profitable (and some times even dangerous!). Lino Vairetti: - In Casale Monferrato in 1972 we were beset by a riotous and contestant group who, shouting “We want the music for free”, attacked us and the staff of the organisation, calling us fascists and wielding clubs of wood and iron, unchaining a violent action against us and our car supposed to be a luxury good. They targeted Elio who could have died, but he luckily escaped... In 1978, during the tour of Suddance almost all our concerts were cancelled. Because of the kidnapping of Aldo Moro, there were many check points on the roads all over the country and we had been controlled many times by the police [34]. Rodolfo Maltese, guitarist of Banco Actually, nobody was exempt from criticism and troubles, not even bands like Area and PFM or singer-songwriters committed to the left wing like Eugenio Finardi, Francesco Guccini or Francesco De Gregori. Patrizio Fariselli, keyboardist of Area: - Somebody spread the strange idea that the music belonged to everybody and for this reason it should be for free. People that had made music their job, according to this idea, had to play without any remuneration because of this presumed right to the joy and amusement of a life of art and love... Who used to contribute significantly to our survival was the PCI (The Italian Communist Party) with the festivals of Unità. Without that it would be the end [37]. At the concerts there were often among the public those who wanted to jump up the stage to improvise political speeches and “assemblies” about the most disparate issues. Even on the left wing there was always somebody “more on the left” who used to contest and in 4) The decline and the tunnel of the eighties Something was changing and the Golden Age of the Italian progressive Rock was declining, but it’s difficult to say exactly when it was over. What were the reasons of this “irreversible reversal of tendency”? Vittorio Nocenzi: - As far as I’m concerned the main reasons were the electronic loops and a new profession. The advent of the D.J. that gradually became to act as artists while they were just programmers. This happened exactly in 1977. We, in that moment, to be coherent with the times, released “...di Terra”, our most difficult album and in my opinion the one with the best music we have ever released. It was an album intentionally against the stream and not successful at all. Two years of work almost vanished although I remember some wonderful concerts in Many artists abandoned progressive rock to survive in the music business and turned to more commercial genres or put their experience to the service of other artists (for instance, in the eighties Corrado Rustici became the producer of some very successful albums of Zucchero, while Michele Zarrillo, guitarist and singer of Semiramis and Il Rovescio della Medaglia, became a successful melodic pop singer). Someone turned to disco music like Alan Sorrenti, others tried to release sophisticated pop albums like Matia Bazar, a band that rose from the ashes of Museo Rosenbach and Jet. Giancarlo Golzi, drummer of Museo Rosenbach and Matia Bazar: - How did we come to turn from the progressive rock of Museo Rosenbach to the pop of Matia Bazar? It was a natural evolution and an almost obligated choice. Thanks to progressive we could have been playing all what we wanted: many of us had practically passed all their adolescence in a basement to rehearse, to improve their musicianship trying to absorb the great lesson that came from Britain in that period. Suddenly we realized that we were just imitating things that didn’t belong to us and we felt the need to create something original [42]. Some even reached success producing sons for the cartoons series coming from 5) The come-back of the nineties and the present scene During the eighties in Something changed at the beginning of the nineties and interest for this genre of music engaged and complex seemed to emerge again. There were some new bands trying to deal with the themes and the sonorities of the progressive era, while some “historic” bands brushed off the rust from their glorious past. In 1994 I remember going to a wonderful performance of Le Orme promoting their album “Antologia 1970 – Although the present Italian progressive scene is kicking and alive, media and the music business seem to ignore all its potentialities. Vittorio Nocenzi: - They’re trying hard to homologate and globalize the preferences of the public. Well, perhaps these words are a little bit abused but it’s absolutely true; there’s only one model that the music business tries to impose on everyone using medias and market strategies, leaving no much room for something that sounds different. I dare say that they try to avoid diversity like a disease and consequently it’s very difficult producing genres of music different from the mainstream. It’s the same for Jazz, for instance, because it’s a musical language that needs a deeper knowledge and it’s more challenging for the listener; so it’s usually excluded by majors and medias [47]. However, also some progressive fans would deserve to be put on the Index because they’re too “nostalgic” and bound exclusively to the bands of the golden era while they don’t pay enough attention to the new bands, as an emerging band, Taproban, remark in an interview: - It’s the world of progressive rock that is indifferent towards itself. So, if there’s a good work to promote it often gets lost in the indifference of the progressive movement itself! Radio and TV are completely indifferent; some managers and promoters are just scoundrels who offer to the new bands contracts that resemble hanging ropes; there are people that keep on buying all the re-releases of Genesis or Yes completely ignoring great bands such as Finisterre, Moongarden, Andrea Parentin Suggested discography: Alphataurus: Alphataurus (1973); Alusa Fallax: Intorno alla mia cattiva educazione (1974); Apoteosi: Apoteosi (1975); Area: Arbeit Macht Frei (1973), Crac! (1974), Maledetti (maudits) (1976); Arti & Mestieri: Tilt - Immagini per un orecchio (1974), Giro di valzer per domani (1975); Il Balletto di Bronzo: Ys (1972); Banco del Mutuo Soccorso: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (1972), Darwin (1972), Io sono nato libero (1973), Come in un’ultima cena (1975), Di terra (1977), Canto di primavera (1978); Franco Battiato: Pollution (1972), Sulle corde di Aries (1973), L’era del cinghiale bianco (1979); Un Biglietto per l’inferno: Un biglietto per l’inferno (1974); Il Castello di Atlante: Sono io il signore delle terre a Nord (1992); Celeste: Principe di un giorno (1976); Cervello: Melos (1973); De De Lind: Io non so da dove vengo e non so mai dove andrò, uomo è il nome che mi han dato (1973); Delirium: Dolce acqua (1971), Viaggio negli arcipelaghi del tempo (1974); Deus ex-machina: Cinque (2002); Divae: Determinazione (1996); I Giganti: Terra in bocca (1971); Latte e Miele: Passio Secundum Mattheum (1972); Locanda delle Fate: Forse le lucciole non si amano più (1977); Bibliography: G. CASIRAGHI, Anni 70 – Generazione Rock, Ed. Riuniti, Roma, 2005; G. CASIRAGHI – M. CAPPON, Un Biglietto per l’Inferno – Un viaggio lungo trent’anni, ed G. CHIRIACO’, Area - Musica e rivoluzione, ed. Stampa Alternativa, Roma, 2005 M. COTTO, Di acqua e di respiro, Ivano Fossati si racconta a Massimo Cotto, ed. Arcana, Roma, 2005; D. DELLA PORTA – H. REITER, Polizia e protesta – L’ordine pubblico dalla liberazione ai no global, ed. Il Mulino, Bologna, 2003 I. MONTANELLI – M. CERVI, L’Italia degli anni di piombo, ed Rizzoli, Milano, 1991; C. RIZZI, Progressive, ed. Giunti, coll. Atlanti Universali, Firenze, 1999: G.P. TRIFIRO’, Le Orme - Storia e leggenda, ed. Aurora Ormea, Imperia, 2006; D. ZOPPO, Premiata Forneria Marconi, 1971-2006: 35 anni di rock immaginifico, ed. Editori Riuniti, Roma, 2006. [1] D. ZOPPO, Premiata Forneria Marconi, 1971-2006: 35 anni di rock immaginifico, ed. Editori Riuniti, Roma, 2006, p. 18. [2] M. COTTO, Di acqua e di respiro, Ivano Fossati si racconta a Massimo Cotto, ed. Arcana, Roma, 2005, p.13. [3] C. RIZZI, Progressive, ed. Giunti, coll. Atlanti Universali, Firenze, 1999, p. 6 [4] Quote from G. CASIRAGHI, Anni 70 – Generazione Rock, Ed. Riuniti, Roma, 2005, p. 41. [5] Quote from G. CASIRAGHI, Anni 70 – Generazione Rock, Ed. Riuniti, Roma, 2005, p. 128. [6] Quote from an interview on the site www.pagine70.com. [7] Quote from F. MIRENZI, Rock Progressivo Italiano - Vol. 2, ed. Castelvecchi, Roma, 1997 [8] Quote from an interview on the site www.deagostinedicola.it. [9] Quote from G. CASIRAGHI, Anni 70 – Generazione Rock, Ed. Riuniti, Roma, 2005, p. 106. [10] Quote from an interview on the site www.arlequins.it [11] Quote from M. COTTO, Di acqua e di respiro, Ivano Fossati si racconta a Massimo Cotto, ed. Arcana, Roma, 2005, p.19 [12] Quote from M. COTTO, Di acqua e di respiro, Ivano Fossati si racconta a Massimo Cotto, ed. Arcana, Roma, 2005, p.19-20 [13] Quote from an interview on the site www.MovimentiPROG.it [14] Quote from an interview on the site www.Italianprog.it [15] Quote from G. CASIRAGHI, Anni 70 – Generazione Rock, Ed. Riuniti, Roma, 2005, p. 133 [16] I. MONTANELLI – M. CERVI, L’Italia degli anni di piombo, ed Rizzoli, Milano, 1991, p. 75 [17] D. DELLA PORTA – H. REITER, Polizia e protesta – L’ordine pubblico dalla liberazione ai no global, ed. Il Mulino, Bologna, 2003, p. 267 [18] I. MONTANELLI – M. CERVI, L’Italia degli anni di piombo, ed Rizzoli, Milano, 1991, p. 88 [19] Quote from an interview on the site www.pagine70.com [20] Quote from an interview on the site www.pagine70.com [21] Quote from G. CASIRAGHI – M. CAPPON, Un Biglietto per l’Inferno – Un viaggio lungo trent’anni, ed [22] G. CHIRIACO’, Area - Musica e rivoluzione, ed. Stampa Alternativa, Roma, 2005, p. 8 [23] Quote from an interview on the site www.pagine70.com [24] Quote from D. ZOPPO, Premiata Forneria Marconi, 1971-2006: 35 anni di rock immaginifico, ed. Editori Riuniti, Roma, 2006, p. 96 [25] D. ZOPPO, Premiata Forneria Marconi, 1971-2006: 35 anni di rock immaginifico, ed. Editori Riuniti, Roma, 2006, p. 96 [26] Quote from G. CASIRAGHI – M. CAPPON, Un Biglietto per l’Inferno – Un viaggio lungo trent’anni, ed [27] Quote from G. CASIRAGHI, Anni 70 – Generazione Rock, Ed. Riuniti, Roma, 2005, p. 129. [28] Quote from an interview on the site www.pagine70.com [29] Quote from an interview on the site www.deagostiniedicola.it [30] Quote from an interview on the site www.guidesupereva.com [31] Quote from G. CASIRAGHI, Anni 70 – Generazione Rock, Ed. Riuniti, Roma, 2005, p. 166 [32] Quote from an interview on the magazine “Il Borghese” that you can find on the official website of the band. [33] G. CHIRIACO’, Area - Musica e rivoluzione, ed. Stampa Alternativa, Roma, 2005, p. 23-24 [34] Quote from an interview on the site www.pagine70.com [35] Quote from G. CASIRAGHI, Anni 70 – Generazione Rock, Ed. Riuniti, Roma, 2005, p. 115. [36] Quote from G. CASIRAGHI, Anni 70 – Generazione Rock, Ed. Riuniti, Roma, 2005, p. 115. [37] Quote from G. CASIRAGHI, Anni 70 – Generazione Rock, Ed. Riuniti, Roma, 2005, p. 59. [38] Quote from an interview on the site www.arlequins.it [39] Quote from an interview on the site www.arlequins.it [40] Quote from an interview on the site www.pagine70.com [41] Quote from an interview on the site www.wuz.it [42] Quote from an interview on the site www.deagostiniedicola.it [43] Quote from an interview on the site www.tanadelletigri.info [44] Quote from an interview on the site www.pagine70.com [45] Quote from an interview on the site www.arlequins.it [46] Quote from an interview on the site www.movimentiPROG.it [47] Quote from an interview on the site www.pagine70.com [48] Quote from an interview on the site www.arlequins.it Edited by andrea - January 29 2007 at 10:24 |
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Tony R
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Posted: February 01 2007 at 18:25 | |
I reposted it....... |
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andrea
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cucacola54
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 14:44 | |
ahh great work, thank you a lot!
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micky
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Posted: February 25 2007 at 19:48 | |
It really was... it was something I took a stab at early on but without knowing the language well enough to read source materials.. Andrea P took it over.. good thing as well...I couldn't have done a quarter the job Andrea did. |
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markl
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Posted: March 02 2007 at 22:08 | |
nice article great job !!
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Garion81
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Posted: March 13 2007 at 19:32 | |
"However, also some progressive fans would deserve to be put on the Index because they’re too “nostalgic” and bound exclusively to the bands of the golden era while they don’t pay enough attention to the new bands, as an emerging band, Taproban, remark in an interview: - It’s the world of progressive rock that is indifferent towards itself. "
Very good article Andrea. I am copying this statement because this is not just true in Italy but everywhere in the world.
I also have a question; a band like PFM still has followers in the USA but they seem very reluctant to play here (2005 at the Nearfest Legends Pre Show is a big exception) What is their reasoning for not touring here?
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andrea
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Posted: March 14 2007 at 14:09 | |
^^^^ Thank you for the feedback
Garion81, I don't think PFM are reluctant to play in the USA... Probably it's just a problem of management and budget... Anyway in this period they are touring in Italy and they're still a great band!
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micky
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Posted: March 27 2007 at 03:16 | |
I know... I think I missed one of their shows here in Rome by a week or two . At least we can catch Le Orme |
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micky
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Posted: April 02 2007 at 08:27 | |
just an update.. a second part ... entry if you will.. is being worked on.
Andrea P. did a stellar job with historical basis of RPI, next up is the musical basis of it. Anyone who has any thoughts can PM me, I know there are many here who have quite a knowledge of RPI beyond the big 4. |
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andrea
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Posted: April 02 2007 at 15:21 | |
Sorry, I can’t catch what do you mean... Just some quotes from the book “Rocking the Classics – English Progressive Rock and the Counterculture” by Edward Macan... First, no music exists outside any society... Second, if no music can really be asocial, no music can be “timeless” either... Finally, the European approach to musical analysis not only neglects the relationship between music and audience by concentrating exclusively on the sounds themselves, but it also limits itself to those elements (harmony, melody, meter and structural organization) which the European notational system can accurately convey... As a result of its insistence upon the “objective” existence of music in some sort of ideal world outside time and society, traditional musicology has tended to isolate the music it attempts to illuminate from the realm of everyday experience. As a result, it has increasingly become a hermetic pursuit of no interest to anyone but other musicologists, and has had difficulty in engaging issues that are truly meaningful to contemporary society... Music exists as a form of communication between people of a certain time and, most often, a certain place... Analyzing the sounds should not be an end in itself. The ultimate goal of musicology, in my view, should be to document the relationship between music and society, because people do not exist for music: music exists for people. I felt that only through reconnecting music to real people in specific times and places could musicology connect with society at large, engage it in a symbiotic dialogue, and thus avoid the death by social irrelevance to which a continued reliance on unexamined positivism will surely condemn it... Dear Micky, I fear that you’re on the wrong way... |
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micky
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Posted: April 02 2007 at 15:27 | |
I've read that... . Have you read the whole book.. .the idiot thinks that all prog can be explained as a function of English culture and the upper society hahahhahha.
look for a PM from me Andrea...maybe I can make what we are doing more clear.... |
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andrea
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Posted: April 02 2007 at 17:12 | |
I see... Well, I will try to contribute...
I just think that the best place where try to explain and describe music and lyrics is in the reviews of the albums rather than in another blog... Anyway in RPI is almost impossible to separate music and its "social connections"...
Just a few examples:
As for the book, I like the author's approach but I haven't finished it yet... Edited by andrea - April 02 2007 at 17:41 |
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micky
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Posted: April 03 2007 at 12:08 | |
exactly.. it really can't be seperated... that whole book says nothing to what you all dealt with and experienced in Italy ...or Germany for that matter that directly influenced the prog movements in those two countries. That book is a complete 'anglo-centric' version of prog. Edited by micky - April 03 2007 at 12:08 |
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micky
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Posted: April 03 2007 at 15:31 | |
while taking a break...from things Art Rock ... I thumbed through that book Andrea.. and came to one page on Italian prog. What he lacked in brevity...he said with clarity
'Italian bands introduced an emphasis on lyricism, vocal effusiveness, and melodrama (OH YEAH hahahha) that often differentiates them from their English colleagues' |
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micky
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Posted: April 03 2007 at 15:33 | |
also while not directly relating to RPI but to what I would do to the site.. which is blow the whole damn existing sub-genre system to hell...
'The main contribuation of Continental bands was to bring national characteristics to bear on the idiom (progressive rock)' he then uses Prog Andaluz as an example which could... or should be a sub-genre here if... hahahha... we go sub-genre crazy here. Edited by micky - April 03 2007 at 15:34 |
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Posted: March 21 2008 at 10:14 | |
Fabulous work for the Italian Prog genre, Andrea, many many thanks for your efforts.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 16:02 | |
Andrea your article is great!!!! can i traslate into spanish my mother tongue?
Thanks this is solid gold.
Alberto
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andrea
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 16:34 | |
Yes, of course... And I’m curious to read it! If it can help you, an Italian version of the article has been published in four parts on the Italian prog site movimentiprog.net Here you can find the links: Part I Part II Part III Part IV |
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