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MikeEnRegalia 
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^ Yes, sadly we live in a world of influencers ... I have also muted the DT Facebook group to skip reading posts by smug recipients of the album desperately trying to be (one of the many) first to tell us what we should think about the music.
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richardh
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I'm avoiding any online reviews which quite honestly have been put out by yt reviewers only to boost their numbers (and it has clearly worked!). The likes of Sea Of Tranquility, The Prog Corner and Nathan On Shuffle are just not going to be critical because that's not their 'thing' (and Scot Lade 'Miamiscot' had already tipped us the wink that he was doing a positive review!). I will give the album a fair listen and make up my own mind.
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essexboyinwales
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Posted: February 04 2025 at 15:17 |
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Exactly…. |
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Hrychu
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moshkito
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Posted: February 04 2025 at 08:57 |
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Hi, Hmmmm ... so the folks' opinions here don't matter at all? Sad ... Happy New Year ... better late than never!
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essexboyinwales
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Posted: February 03 2025 at 14:58 |
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New album comes out this Friday (7th Feb). Both reviews I’ve read have been positive….
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Catcher10
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Posted: December 05 2024 at 00:14 |
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First listen not hitting me yet.....
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moshkito
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Posted: December 04 2024 at 12:36 |
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Hi, To my ears it did not seem to have the quality of work that was seen and heard on the first example. I think this was done too fast and Mike did not have a chance to do more on his drumming, and consequently it sounds not as strong ... but I have to admit that this particular piece did not stand up anywhere near the first one ... and I would not include it in the album, and bring down the work and quality of the first piece. It really makes me think that DT is almost done ... noting new, and this 2nd piece is not as good or recorded with the touch that the first piece had ... I'm guessing that the first piece was rehearsed quite a lot, whereas this 2nd one feels mailed in and not exactly together.
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richardh
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Posted: December 03 2024 at 23:12 |
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^ should carry a warning for anyone with photo sensitive epilepsy, it's okay but I'm still not keen on the drum sound which is a bit thin.
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yam yam
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Posted: December 03 2024 at 17:48 |
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The second single from Parasomnia has dropped today, a song called 'A Broken Man'.
Lots of positive comments on YT, though I guess that's only to be expected.
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Cristi
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Strange. I rarely get this coded thing. I just edit it out, it worked every time.
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A Crimson Mellotron
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Cristi
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you can still edit your posts (when that happens).  Edited by Cristi - November 12 2024 at 00:53 |
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A Crimson Mellotron
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^By the way, what is this coding thing at the end of the post and how can I get rid of it??(function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8e14f5201dc9d0f7',t:'MTczMTM5ODEwMy4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium; visibility: ;">
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A Crimson Mellotron
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Posted: November 12 2024 at 00:50 |
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Song is good for sure! It's Dream Theater doing what they love and what they're best at. Not entirely convinced by the chorus but the instrumental final third is pretty good. In a way it follows what they were doing on the last couple of albums but the new tracks is fine.(function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8e14ee7e9f871ca0',t:'MTczMTM5NzgzMS4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})(); < height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium; visibility: ;">
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moshkito
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Posted: November 11 2024 at 19:15 |
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Hi, There are some things that he does that I like, but others that ... just fly to nowhere in my mind ... when it all becomes just a justification for the music director to make sure that we swallow all the material ... is when I turn him off ... I always have the feeling that these folks are so enshrined with the idea that all music is created from the notes ... not that the notes ended up being the expression that helped translate the inner vision of the mind ... and DD's expectation of this after that and musical ideas, can be a bit frustrating for me. (A nice example of this is in the film "Amadeus" when Mozart is telling Salieri which notes to describe his visions/imagination ... and Salieri had questions of course, as these ideas were not "the norm"). Likewise, I find it strange that he can't see the music, sometimes for what it is ... I appreciate he likes ELP (I always have, especially the classical content, however, to not realize/see that Tarkus is a massive piano concerto ... instead of a rock song ... is criminal in my book ... even today if you turned in that score to a professor at Uni, you will get trashed ... and probably not invited for next quarter or semester in your studies! The continued idea of "song" and not "serious" music is an issue in my heart ... I don't think that everyone simply writes songs nowadays, because they are not smart enough or educated enough to take their music to a higher sphere if education ... that is not EVER to say that the ability is not there ... it is ... but the commerciality of it all simply breaks through first 99 out of 100 times it feels like. I was kind of thinking that DT is trying to take "metal" to a different level that most might not have the ability to work with ... and I think that is a good thing, but I wonder if we will "get it" and appreciate it. And that remains to be seen.
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Posted: November 11 2024 at 18:03 |
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It's been a while since I have checked out some Dayly Doug. Perhaps I should check out what he's been posting. It's always interesting to see what he's got to say about the music. |
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Hi, Just got to watch the Daily Doug do this piece of music, and the explanations and comments, really helped ... I think that some of the internal stuff and communication within the band is so well placed under it all, that sometimes what might sound odd, is actually a very good touch and ability ... which DD makes clear for us a lot more. A thought I had, was how much Jordan Rudess has probably helped develop DT ... in that the transitions and changes are much smoother and well placed, as opposed to a lot of "progrock" that does them without any clear or well defined musical connections ... in this case here, DD shows us how smooth they are ... an ability for a band that is way beyond most folks ... and something that many of us may have a hard time with ... I will agree with DD here, that this is above and beyond a lot of progressive music ... the musicianship alone is not something to snuff at ... this is real musicianship ... not idealist touches. Kinda strange that at first I thought only of ... metal that we had heard before ... which tells you that I was hearing an earlier DT that I had seen in concert before ... not what they have now ... the musicianship in this is very tight ... and this blows out a lot of stuff out of the best of the month or year out of the water ... though many will have personal reasons why it won't. Though I wonder how much of their knowledge of music and how they approached it, is really way too far a lot of the simplistic subjective notions that we have about music ... all of a sudden, the technical ability of it all is behind it some, and we can not see it ... except to think that it is the same thing as before ... we haven't improved along with the music, it looks like! Are we progressive yet? Or just talking?
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I liked the song better than most of all they have released since Portnoy left. But I have only heard it twice or thrice, I'm still not sure how it will grow on me. But at least for first impression I feel the band will recover some of the spark they had lost when Portnoy left. Still, I doubt they can go back to pre Systematic Chaos era.
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Hi, Sometimes, and I mean sometimes, I think that the graduates from that one school, are not exactly good "artists" ... they are musicians with notes and chords ... but no one at the school knew, or could (or wanted to!!!) discuss and try to teach true improvisation and free form expressions, and then all you got are folks that ... would not exactly make it to graduate school (so to speak) because they can only do one thing. I think they are afraid of studying folks like Eno, Robert Wyatt, Art Bears/Henry Cow, and that type of creativity, because it is all centered on notes, chords and staff, not expression ... That's just a thought/feeling, which is so different from the acting/directing world of film and theater ... musicians in most bands, I don't think have a good idea of how to "interpret" what they do beyond sounding the same as everyone else. If I told one of the instructors that the same NOTE can be played 200 different times, to bring out different feelings ... I bet you many of them will say ... "that's not rock'n'roll" ... and thus not even consider that study valuable ... but it is really hard to conceive a director (from Peter Brook's book) saying that the repetitive moment in King Lear by his lead actor was done in at least 200 performances, and he could not think/find any of them that were similar ... it was different each and every time ... mind you ... the same words! This is an area that I wish a lot of "progrock" would improve so it would stop sounding exactly the same as everyone else ... not very original at all! The original "progressive" bands did not have an issue with this at all! The individuality was more valuable than trying to be something or other ... and that is not something that most bands know about these days.
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