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mbzr48 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Discography Auditor Joined: February 11 2011 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2179 |
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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7304 |
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![]() We purged the site of most of these somewhat misleading lines back in January 2021 after Jose went on his mad spree adding "FLAC download - bandcamp.com" to around 3000 albums. We replaced the 'FLAC download' bit with 'Digital album' to begin with if I remember correctly, and then did away with the Bandcamp reference altogether, since many albums are available digitally via several different platforms, not just Bandcamp. It looks from a quick glance at a few in that list that TCat has copied his FLAC lines from the Discogs pages for these albums - and not all of them will be available on Bandcamp, though they may be available from other digital music sources. I think we will therefore probably have to look at all these on a case by case basis rather than wiping them all automatically with the script. The ones that are available from sources other than the one mentioned in the releases section by TCat should just say the usual 'Digital album' imho, but any that seem to be only available from that one single source should stay as they are. I think that's going to be a lot of work to do all at once, so the alternative is to just accept the situation as it is for now and just work through the lists gradually when time permits. We're never going to be able to stop members of the site adding similar lines in the Releases Information of the albums that they add in the future in any case, meaning that there will always be a few of these FLAC lines knocking about on the site no matter how many times we try to purge them. At least what TCat has written is taken from a reliable source - it's not the same as Jose's previous misleading entries suggesting that Bandcamp downloads were only available as FLAC, which was the initial problem we had. And yes, I think it does make sense to look at them from newest to oldest - starting with TCat's list. |
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^ Well, you're right. But this is not what I meant, sorry!
I meant that, most of the time, when PA members add an album with "FLAC" in the Releases information, it is synonymous with Digital album. Nowadays, at least. Is it clearer that way?
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Well, There are currently 228 album entries with the word "FLAC" within the Releases information field. That's a lot. I think we should look at them from newest to oldest, because nowadays FLAC is pretty much synonymous with digital album, but back in the days FLAC really meant FLAC (before digital platforms such as Spotify, Youtube music, etc.) Hope I make sense? Anyway, here are the 115 ones added by TCat, which are all pretty recent (2019+) : https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63501 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63502 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63503 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63504 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63516 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63997 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63998 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63999 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64000 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64001 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64005 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64006 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64007 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64008 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64009 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64010 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64053 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64068 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64076 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64077 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64092 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64101 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64111 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64114 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64121 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64122 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64123 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64124 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64125 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64126 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64127 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64128 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64129 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64147 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64157 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64173 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64177 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64178 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64181 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64213 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64218 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64363 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64364 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64503 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64618 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64619 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64625 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64632 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64722 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64923 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64978 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65229 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65235 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65236 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65237 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65390 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65393 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65397 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65663 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66755 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66853 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66893 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66895 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66896 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66936 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69247 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69249 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69250 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69427 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69552 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69553 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69554 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69555 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69556 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69557 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69558 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69559 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69560 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69561 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69562 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69564 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69565 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69566 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69567 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69573 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69574 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69575 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69578 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69579 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69580 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69581 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69582 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69583 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69601 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69602 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69603 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69604 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69605 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69609 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69610 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69611 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69614 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69615 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69616 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69617 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69619 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69620 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69621 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69622 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69623 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69624 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69625 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69684 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69721 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=70904 Should I update them automatically? What would be the right thing to do?
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19048 |
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That's the VHS. What about the album which is where it is listed as being from 1995.
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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7304 |
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Cristi first changed the name of the EX CURIA page to EX CURIA/SKY SIGNALS. I then moved the 'Illumine' SKY SIGNALS album to the EX CURIA/SKY SIGNALS page and added "(as Sky Signals)" to its title to begin with, also changing the two existing releases on the page to include "(as Ex Curia") in their title, but then I looked at the Neal Morse page to see how the titles of albums that had been released as different variations of the same artist had been presented on that page, and decided to follow the same style with this album too, so its title now reads "Sky Signals: Illumine". I altered the two EX CURIA releases to show that same style of album title as well. I had already written a full additional biography which included a history of all the line-up changes and the change of band name, and Cristi added this below the short existing introductory bio that was already on the page. All that's left now on the old SKY SIGNALS page is a band photo and the old one line biography, so I have indeed suggested to the PM team that they reuse that page ID for their next addition. There are a few bits of � abracadabra where there should be an Ë in the new EX CURIA/SKY SIGNALS bio, but Cristi is aware of this, and he's going to fix that tomorrow morning. He will also insert spaces before and after the slash in the page title so that it becomes EX CURIA / SKY SIGNALS. That should then be the end of the matter!
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I don't see how your "Correct releases" is that much cleaner than my additions.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45937 |
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Well, according to discogs, it was released on VHS back in 1987. The DVD was released in the 2000s.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19048 |
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While researching for the 90s live albums poll I noticed that according to wikipedia, Allmusic and Rate Your Music Marillion's live from Lorely was actually released in 2009 and not 1995 as listed on here.
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7980 |
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If so, I'd suggest slightly different way: - move SKY SIGNALS album to EX CURIA page and add "(as Sky Signals)" to its title; - the band name would be EX CURIA / SKY SIGNALS or (maybe better) simply EX CURIA; ![]() - explain in the bio that the band was temporarily called SKY SIGNALS; - use SKY SIGNALS artist ID for some newly added act.
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7980 |
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Both of your addidions were complete mess, no need to cry over them. Now, with my "inaccuracy", we have 3 correct releases: |
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You are right it was not an omission to delete my first addition of the Sunday album but an inaccuracy!
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7980 |
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I would say fortunately, otherwise any question would be a nightmare because it needs several genre teams to be involved.
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Well said. ![]() And I agree, no need too many EX.
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^ Thanks for this, Eugene. It's what I was expecting that we'd need to do, so I'll ask Cristi to add my extra biographical info into the existing EX CURIA biography to make it more complete, and change the name of the EX CURIA page to SKY SIGNALS / EX CURIA (I think we need to omit the usual 'EX' prefix from the old band name in this particular case, otherwise it will look like a typo lol!). Either he or I can then move the SKY SIGNALS 'Illumine' album to the SKY SIGNALS / EX CURIA page and add "(As Sky Signals)" to its title.
The Prog Metal team can then use the old SKY SIGNALS page ID to add their next cleared artist, and that should be it. The result will be exactly what should have happened at the outset if they'd realised at the time of the SKY SIGNALS evaluation that that SKY SIGNALS and EX CURIA were just "same lady, different dress", as Mayer would say ![]() The band started off as an Experimental/Post Metal band, and so should really stay in that sub. Many bands change the style of their music as they mature, but unfortunately PA doesn't provide a means of assigning more than one sub genre to them, and it's quite rare for the artists in our database to get moved to a different sub once they've they've been added.
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In my opinion, in this case, when the 'new' band has only one album, makes sense to merge 2 bands. Technically it's possible (move the sole SKY SIGNALS album to EX CURIA page, change the band name and then use the former SKY SIGNALS artist ID for some newly added band). The only problem is EX in the name, because the resulting name would be SKY SIGNALS / EX EX CURIA. I think it's up to Metal Teams to decide. Additionally, EX CURIA belongs to Experimental/Post Metal while SKY SIGNALS is in Progressive Metal.
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^ Thanks, David. I guess 'slower' search can give more results.
![]() Julien, do we need to fix them manually or your script will kill the beasts?
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