Political discussion thread

Equality 7-2521 wrote: No. I equate Hispanic pride or any other racial pride with disunity. It's quite the antithesis of assimilation. It's fine to be proud of where you came from as long as you realize what you are now, an American no different from any other American.

Yeah, I see what you are trying to say, but I don't think schools are teaching racial pride in the way that you claim. I have been teaching music in schools, both public and private, for 16 years in California and Tennessee and I don't recall encountering any programs that encourage racial exclusivity. Are there any specific schools that you can name that do this ?

Equality 7-2521 wrote: I wasn't saying that schools do this. I'm saying children are raised this way and the government in general promotes this as a good thing. The problem in schools is a result of this I believe. E.G. Black kids who study hard being harassed by their peers for trying to be white.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: I don't really know what "black" and "white" culture is but I'm not sure liking music is a sign of cultural barriors  breakingdown.

StyLaZyn wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: I don't really know what "black" and "white" culture is but I'm not sure liking music is a sign of cultural barriors  breakingdown.   I see.  Well they also dress and talk the part. Mannerisms inclusive.

Easy Money wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: I wasn't saying that schools do this. I'm saying children are raised this way and the government in general promotes this as a good thing. The problem in schools is a result of this I believe. E.G. Black kids who study hard being harassed by their peers for trying to be white. Do you have a specific example of our government encouraging racial exclusivity ? Also, in my experience at schools I have never encountered African-American kids being harassed for imitating European-American kids. Smart kids of all races are usually considered "nerds" and are open to being bullied just like when we were kids.

I wouldn't know where to find quotes to be honest with you. My best answer would be to turn on MSNBC or CNN or the like and you'll be sure to hear some elected official say something about the wonders of multiculturalism.

Edited by Equality 7-2521 - August 15 2007 at 12:46

StyLaZyn wrote: The Doctor wrote: StyLaZyn wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: I don't really know what "black" and "white" culture is but I'm not sure liking music is a sign of cultural barriors  breakingdown.   I see.  Well they also dress and talk the part. Mannerisms inclusive.   Not sure that's a good thing.  I agree that it would be nice to break down cultural and racial barriers.  But I'm not sure white kids emulating the whole gangsta scene is the way we want the cultural barriers eliminated.  Nor do I believe that the gangsta scene is representative of most of the black community.  They are a fringe element, associated with criminal activity, drug abuse and gang violence.  If that's the way racial barriers are being broken down, then we are better off leaving them up.      Now wait, I didn't mean to present the "gansta wigging", as it's called by some, as a good thing.  It meant to show that the culture barrier is being invaded by either side. The entire problem with the negative elements you present is that they are accepted...period. I'd like to know why? Why is it desireable to be a criminal? Is it like a modern Jesse James or Billy the Kid?

Bump.

New Topic Anyone?

Well, GoldenSpiral, I am not exactely with you. I mean why do you complain when people own guns on college-/university-areas when you otherwise say that everyone should have the right to carry a weapon.
When citizens have the right to carry guns for self-protection anywhere then they should be able to do carry them everywhere, even on university areas.
But as an anti-gun nut I am generally against carrying weapons. I have to admit that my honest opinion is that, in terms of carrying guns, there goes something very wrong in the USA. I really have to say that I am really happy about the fact that not everybody, even every idiot can own his own weapon arsenal here in Germany. I feel much better when I go outside on the streets and I know that nobody there carries a gun. If nobody carries a gun, you need not protect yourself with one too. We have a police for that here.
Or if you are held up, you can use pepper spray, that hurts enough, you need not shoot the thief.
Actually, I think - I do not want to offend anybody here, but it is my personal opinion - that it is pretty perverse that you might get a gun when opening an account at a bank.
Didn't you ever think about why there are so many acts of violence (especially with fire arms) and so many murders in the USA, many more than in the european countries...? I can tell you the simple reason. Because you can get your own gun everywhere.
And why do so many people in the United States want to get their own fire arm? Because the media stokes fears by focussing their reports on crimes and violent acts. In terms of that, you have to change a lot in the USA, in my opinion.
I do not want any violence so I am not interested in owning a gun. If you start thinking that way, there will be no more violence. All I want is peace and love and harmony.

Wise words fellow posters.  These days, it seems that people are losing the hope of achieving a balance of peace and safety, and resorting to the selfish feeling of closure that comes with being armed...it runs on the assumption that everyone is out there to create harm (ahem, a big thank you to the media noise machine) and therefore we must step over the line to be safe (but in reality, creating a much more dangerous situation).

Edited by jimmy_row - November 01 2007 at 12:03

Badabec wrote: Well, GoldenSpiral, I am not exactely with you. I mean why do you complain when people own guns on college-/university-areas when you otherwise say that everyone should have the right to carry a weapon.