The American Politics Thread

I can imagine that Twitter is the only way of communications open to him to express himself. If he tried putting his rants through excepted the traditionally channels, everyone would be on him like a pile of bricks Bruce-Lee-style before anything could actually go out.

In a way it's probably a good thing, because it gives the public a chance to see what is actually going through what passes as his mind before it can be distorted into sense by any advisors.

SteveG wrote: Atavachron wrote: The tweeting has to stop.   It will be his down fall. So, what's the problem?

npjnpj wrote: It's not really a matter of whether Trump Towers was.under observation, from what you say I gather that if it was, it was legal. The point of the matter is the accusation that the surveillance was directly ordered by Obama.

Which is unlikely as Obama is smarter than that.   But Eric Holder, though just as smart, may've felt compelled to do so and keep the Prez out of it.

I’ve been trolling the news outlets concerning Trump’s new immigrant ban from today, which in its present form is just as inhumane and huge as his first effort. The phrase: "polishing a turd" springs to mind.

I’ve discovered a frightening thing: there is hardly any adverse reaction to it any more.

There is some form of appalling lethargy spreading, which is not surprising, considering the workload of confusing and confused news that the White House is shoveling out on a daily basis like a giant popcorn machine of mental crap. Concerning this latest development, this exhaustion couldn’t be happening at a worse moment. The most I seem to be reading is tiredly worded headlines which seem almost fatalistic all of a sudden.

If this is a tactic, then it’s working. But this is not the moment to just lean back and let it all happen, although at this moment it looks as if that’s exactly what’s taking place.This new horrific executive order is being buried by those asinine tweets concerning the alleged Obama wire-tapping. Where’s the sense of perspective? The original outrage seems to have burnt itself out.

It seems to me that whenever Steve Bannon needs a distraction, all he hast to do is say: "Hey Don, tweet something!". The result is inevitably so mind boggingly idiotic that it serves his purpose well.

I don’t think it’ll be long now before those that continue to be vigilant will be perceived as the villains of the peace by the general public. That’s understandable; there’s only so much strain anyone can take.

Just bad news for the immigrants. Sh*t happens.

Edited by npjnpj - March 06 2017 at 19:22

^I find npjnpj's perspectives on American politics refreshing. I'm not sure why you have a problem with someone from Germany (or from any other country) contributing to this thread.

Edited by progaardvark - March 07 2017 at 06:29

We don't even really bother. American politics is all over the Canadian media. Often American politics is the lead story on TV News. Even in the newspapers that we have left.

omphaloskepsis wrote: Today in America- WikiLeaks publishes 8761 CIA documents.  According to official CIA document time stamps, the time period covered in the leaks is 2013-2016.  https://www.yahoo.com/news/wikileaks-publishes-massive-archive-cia-170956306.html <p style="font-weight:400;" ="canvas-atom="" canvas-text="" mb1.0em="" mb0--sm="" mt0.8em--sm"="text" ='<span=""><span style="font-weight:400;">"WikiLeaks </span>[URL=https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/" rel="nofollow]<span style="font-weight:400;]released</span>[/URL]<span style="font-weight:400;"> a huge trove on Tuesday of hacking tools allegedly developed and used by the CIA, a release that — if authentic — would constitute one of the most significant breaches of classified information in the agency’s history. </span> <p style="font-weight:400;" ="canvas-atom="" canvas-text="" mb1.0em="" mb0--sm="" mt0.8em--sm"="text" ='<span="">According to the group led by Julian Assange, the dump includes tools to penetrate popular consumer electronics such as Apple iPhones, Android mobile devices, and smart TVs. The tools purportedly allow agency hackers to penetrate the devices and use them for surveillance and to steal data."  <p style="font-weight:400;" ="canvas-atom="" canvas-text="" mb1.0em="" mb0--sm="" mt0.8em--sm"="text" ='<span=""><span style="font-weight:400;"> </span>

It may be praiseworthy if, as I presume, they didn't share those back doors with the FBI. Nothing WikiLeaks produces ever qualifies as alarming. Frequently embarrassing, perhaps. I have yet to read the article you cited. I only heard about it briefly on television news.

Edited by omphaloskepsis - March 08 2017 at 11:26

Kepler62 wrote: We don't even really bother. American politics is all over the Canadian media. Often American politics is the lead story on TV News. Even in the newspapers that we have left.

Concerning this wire-tapping /Obama accusation situation:

Everyone is waiting for Trump to disclose his information source (or proof). I think that most of us will agree that it probably doesn’t exist, so at the moment he’s not so much playing for time, but I foresee something else:

The more time he lets go by, the more Trump will be able to claim later that the FBI used this time to destroy the evidence trail. I don’t think he’ll worry much about the validity, or that he himself was the one responsible for the delay just before he was about to present the evidence, which, horror of horrors, has suddenly disappeared.

It wouldn’t damage his relationship with the FBI further than it already is, which is rock-bottom. All that would happen is it would trigger another wild goose chase investigation.

If he does do this, I bet it will work.

Edited by npjnpj - March 08 2017 at 15:23