The Atheist - Agnostic - Non religious thread

Arrrghus wrote: Also, don't write off Freud. He happened to be brilliant, and according to recent studies, mostly right about his research. Except for dreams. Dreams mean nothing. Just random neural firing across the frontal lobe because the occipital lobe is spazzing.

No, not really. He gets the idea of the unconscious and repression, but his crazy sexual stuff is completely wrong.

Freud???

I must say, I DO think Freud is generally right. Generally.....like he's got all the ideas but their just warped.
Like his psychosexual stages, there is some truth to them in my opinion and he does have some right ideas, but the whole "wanting to have sex with your mother/secretly wanting to kill your father" thing and "penis envy" is a nuts.

Like I said, a lot of good ides but why he made everything into sexual desires?
I just think the was a sicko oh and all the coke he did

Now cut that out, you're giving me a complex.

Hey, did you guys know there's a magazine called the American Atheist? I'm not sure what they talk about, but I saw it at the public library today. Being I live in Alabama, I'm kinda surprised there wasn't a line of rednecks waiting to burn it.

SaltyJon wrote: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy wrote: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that" and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.  From a scientific point of view, I like to think that anything is possible until proven otherwise, so I don't shoot down any religion's views.  I just don't believe that, in the probably unlikely case that there really is a higher being, any of the religions have managed to quite work out the details correctly yet.

Yea that's pretty much what religions do in general - try to give a working explanation of the unexplainable; I can't really fault them because it's human nature to attach meaning and answers.  Atheism is in the same boat; I don't personally see how someone on either side can be so confident that the other is wrong...but then, maybe everyone on the extreme sides has hidden doubts that cause internal strife...(?!) As I perfectly happy non-religious (NOT anti-religious) person, I have to say that I'm tired of the bad stigma that hardliners give us, blaming all of the worlds ills on organized religion  Grow the hell up.  And I'm sometimes frustrated with the other side questioning how I can possibly have any meaning in my life withouth Jesus or Allah or Loch Ness Monster and then ignoring my response to give me a lecture... ... Ah it feels good to vent.

Deathrabbit wrote: My own opinion: people who are overzealous in their beliefs (atheism, religion, or otherwise) are just covering for their own weak will power. Just like an alcoholic, can't even sit at a bar if he's trying to recover, neither can these people even begin to entertain ideas other than their own, otherwise they will be broken down.

Religion is for people who don't understand Science and logic.

Zargus wrote: Religion is for people who don't understand Science and logic.

Science and logic are for people who don't understand religion.

Agreed.

Deathrabbit wrote: Zargus wrote: Religion is for people who don't understand Science and logic. Crap well I better quit my engineering degree then. Apparently, I'm doomed to failure.

Yea, I must disagree as well. I think that's more of an elitist position. You know, for those atheists that have to go around proving how much better they are. A very close family to ours, the parents are both EXTREMELY religious, (they put God in every other word practically) yet one's a chemical engineer, other is a mechanical engineer and my roommate is one of the most religious guys I know and he's also in engineering and is very logical minded. Too much so sometimes: He finds the fault, or inefficiency, in everything and goes about trying to remedy it.

So yea, to do the whole "People who believe in God/are Religious are sheep who go blindly through life following everything they're told and are dumb..." Is just stereotypical and frankly is a pretty stupid thing to say.