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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2009 at 10:55
Swept by the Rockies. Further down the downward spiral.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2009 at 11:34
The Tigers swept the Beermakers this weekend so at least the Pirates didn't lose any ground to them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2009 at 11:39
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

The Tigers swept the Beermakers this weekend so at least the Pirates didn't lose any ground to them.


Yes that is true but in doing so they helped out the Cardinals who in turn swept the inept Royals.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2009 at 11:42
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

The Tigers swept the Beermakers this weekend so at least the Pirates didn't lose any ground to them.


Yes that is true but in doing so they helped out the Cardinals who in turn swept the inept Royals.
 
The Tigers didn't help much matter either when they lost 2 out of 3 to the Cardinals last week.  The Royals really looked like they might be this years Rays, but they have been on a major downward spiral lately.  As a Tigers' fan, I am alright with that, but I still feel for their fans.  The first month and 1/2 or two they were looking really good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2009 at 12:04
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

The Tigers swept the Beermakers this weekend so at least the Pirates didn't lose any ground to them.


Yes that is true but in doing so they helped out the Cardinals who in turn swept the inept Royals.
 
The Tigers didn't help much matter either when they lost 2 out of 3 to the Cardinals last week.  The Royals really looked like they might be this years Rays, but they have been on a major downward spiral lately.  As a Tigers' fan, I am alright with that, but I still feel for their fans.  The first month and 1/2 or two they were looking really good.


I think they were riding on Greinke's performance. The team that took the field this weekend looked like a Triple A team that was patched together.
I was hoping that the Tigers were going to do better against the Cards this week. I don't think that the Mets will do much against them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 20:12
God NL plays sucks.
I guess it's just personal opinion, and probably depends and what you grew up with but seriously.
It seems EVERY time the yanks are getting in a good situation the pitcher comes up to hit and it's almost an automatic out. Same with the Braves of course.

And seriously, 3 losses to Boston a LUCKY 2 win series against the Mets, lost 2 of 3 the NATS and the Marlins....... What the f*ck?
At least Wang seems to finally be back. His velocity was good all game, the sinker was effective, he was his usual efficient self. He was taken out early for a pinch hitter but still.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2009 at 14:18
^ That's called real baseballWink
I think the DH has made the game boring and predictable. It really is the way a manger makes his choices in these situations that make the game interesting.  Yeah there are some more runs scored but so what. Torre and Colleti are great. They took Mark Loretta and Brad Ausmus on the bench. Both of these guys are both used to being everyday players so when they get into American league parks they can be effective DHs rather than a straight pinch hitter who is geared up for one at bat a game or 4-5 a week.  As much as some think otherwise National League teams have struggled more in American parks than vice versa. This move has payed off as the Dodgers are now 5-2 in American league parks this year with two left to go in Chi Town.  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2009 at 16:21
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

^ That's called real baseballWink
I think the DH has made the game boring and predictable. It really is the way a manger makes his choices in these situations that make the game interesting.  Yeah there are some more runs scored but so what. Torre and Colleti are great. They took Mark Loretta and Brad Ausmus on the bench. Both of these guys are both used to being everyday players so when they get into American league parks they can be effective DHs rather than a straight pinch hitter who is geared up for one at bat a game or 4-5 a week.  As much as some think otherwise National League teams have struggled more in American parks than vice versa. This move has payed off as the Dodgers are now 5-2 in American league parks this year with two left to go in Chi Town.  
 
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It is amazing how poorly some AL managers work with the pitchers spot. Trembley has made some questionable moves that one would never see a NL manager make
 
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2009 at 16:28
Cubs and Tigers had a great game last night. Looks like it will be a good series Scott. Hopefully tonight's result will be a bit different for the Cubbies

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2009 at 21:03
Like I said it's personal preference.
You may say AL is boring....I mean there were several times throughout these games when, BOTH teams had a run going then the pitcher comes up....talk about boring and predictable.

Yea, I guess it's "true" baseball since every player has to play offense and defense but what can I say I was raised on AL baseball with lots of hitting and home runs. Not strategy.

Anyway, yanks are on a real sh*t streak but Joba pitched well today and they finally started hitting again. Hope Mo can close it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2009 at 08:38
Originally posted by mr.cub mr.cub wrote:

Cubs and Tigers had a great game last night. Looks like it will be a good series Scott. Hopefully tonight's result will be a bit different for the Cubbies
 
From a Tigers' fan's perspective that is two good games in row between the Tigers and Cubbies.  Last night's game was real stressful from the standpoint that the Cubs had men on 1st and 2nd with noone out in almost every inning, but amazingly they only managed to score 3 runs.  I suspect that had to be real frustrating from a Cub fan's perspective.  I know that the Cub fans in attendance in my section still had a good time but I could tell that they were getting frustrated with all of the men that they left on base. 
 
We were really hoping for a quick game last night because the Cities of Detroit and Windsor were having their joint fireworks last night and we wanted to get out of town before the fireworks.  Unfortunately, the game lasted almost 3 1/2 hours and the fireworks started to go off during the 8th inning.  They were behind us so we couldn't see them, but the fans on the home plate/third base side of the field got quite the show.  We lucked out however when the police let us get on to I-75 by our parking garage.  They were supposed to have it closed off so that they forced us to drive throughout the city to find a way out.  We managed to beat the firework crowd by mere minutes I think.  Listening to the postgame show, people were calling in and saying that they were stuck in a logjam.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2009 at 10:24
Buccos beat the Tribe but allow 5 runs in the ninth. Talk a about ugly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 19:34
The Yanks offensive slump appears to be broken.
Won an absolute slug fest last night. And thus far up 4-0 in the 2nd.

Of course that was helped by 3 errors in 1 inning.
The Mets have proved it yet again....


And I LOVE CC Sabathia. Besides being a great pitcher the guys 100+ constantly, sometimes into the 120's....no problem. A real nice thing to see today when the 100th pitch is usually like a cliff for pitchers.
Not to mention he's a good hitter!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 23:19
So I am watching the Dodger Mariner game and Vin Scully was leading off an inning talking about in this day in Dodger history 1966 Sandy Koufax was the winning pitcher as the Dodgers beat the Braves 2-1 but that's not he story.  The story is it was Sandy's 14th complete game. He went on to win 27 games and had 27 complete games!  I think the Dodger staff has two this year.  It is amazing how the4 game has changed.  He also related a game between the Giants and Braves that year that went 16 inning with Juan Marichal and Warren Spahn both pitched complete games and Marichal had 232 pitches!  232 pitches that is 4 games for some starters now.  When i heard someone say recently Randy Johnson was the greatest left handed pitcher hands down I have to laugh. Koufax in 6 years from 1961 to 1966 had the most dominating stats in baseball.  He was forced to retire due to and arthritic elbow but some have suggested he could have had the Tommy john surgery and made a complete recovery.  Who knows?  But look at these stats from his final year in 1966
 
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"He ended up pitching 323 innings and had a 27–9 record with a 1.73 ERA. Since then, no left-hander has had more wins, nor a lower ERA, in a season (Phillies pitcher Steve Carlton did match the 27 win mark in 1972). In the final game of the regular season, the Dodgers had to beat the Phillies to win the pennant. In the second game of a doubleheader, Koufax faced Jim Bunning in the first ever match-up between perfect game winners. Koufax, on two days rest, pitched a complete game, 6–3 victory to clinch the pennant. While he started 41 games (for the second year in a row), only two left-handers started as many games in any season over the ensuing years through 2008."
 
That is truly amazing and so very shocking about how the game has changed. I cite SK here but there were many pitchers from that era you could list as well Bob, Gibson, Marachll, Spawn, Ford and others.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 23:26
^ I always love to see starters go deep into games. Money is a real issue now since who is going to risk throwing out a young arm when he's getting paid millions over 5 years

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 23:33
One of the reasons why Roy Halladay is my favorite pitcher, gotta respect anyone who pitches 10 inning in a single ballgame nowadays.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 13:47
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

So I am watching the Dodger Mariner game and Vin Scully was leading off an inning talking about in this day in Dodger history 1966 Sandy Koufax was the winning pitcher as the Dodgers beat the Braves 2-1 but that's not he story.  The story is it was Sandy's 14th complete game. He went on to win 27 games and had 27 complete games!  I think the Dodger staff has two this year.  It is amazing how the4 game has changed.  He also related a game between the Giants and Braves that year that went 16 inning with Juan Marichal and Warren Spahn both pitched complete games and Marichal had 232 pitches!  232 pitches that is 4 games for some starters now.  When i heard someone say recently Randy Johnson was the greatest left handed pitcher hands down I have to laugh. Koufax in 6 years from 1961 to 1966 had the most dominating stats in baseball.  He was forced to retire due to and arthritic elbow but some have suggested he could have had the Tommy john surgery and made a complete recovery.  Who knows?  But look at these stats from his final year in 1966
 
Quoting Wikipedia here:
"He ended up pitching 323 innings and had a 27–9 record with a 1.73 ERA. Since then, no left-hander has had more wins, nor a lower ERA, in a season (Phillies pitcher Steve Carlton did match the 27 win mark in 1972). In the final game of the regular season, the Dodgers had to beat the Phillies to win the pennant. In the second game of a doubleheader, Koufax faced Jim Bunning in the first ever match-up between perfect game winners. Koufax, on two days rest, pitched a complete game, 6–3 victory to clinch the pennant. While he started 41 games (for the second year in a row), only two left-handers started as many games in any season over the ensuing years through 2008."
 
That is truly amazing and so very shocking about how the game has changed. I cite SK here but there were many pitchers from that era you could list as well Bob, Gibson, Marachll, Spawn, Ford and others.


Koufax and Gibson were beasts when it came to pitching. When Scully dies we will lose the final broadcasting link to baseball's golden era. Enjoy him while you have him. He is an icon and deserves his place in Cooperstown.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 13:52
Ernie Harwell is still alive and kicking and writing articles for the Detroit Free Press.  Idefinitely miss listening to his game calling on the radio.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 14:05
^ Yes Harwell is in that class as well.  I am amazed that Vin still keeps going.  He was voted the all time Los Angeles Dodger in a poll some 10 years ago or so.  The Dodgers had him throw out the first ball on opening day this year. Can any of you imagine any pitcher today starting a game on two days rest and completing that game?  I don't always blame  the pitchers.  This pitch count and 5 starter rotations have had a lot to do with it.  I hear Nolan Ryan in Texas is trying to change that in his minor league system. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2009 at 22:55
Congrats to Mariano Rivera on save #500!

And not just that it was his 110th save where he pitched more 1 inning.

Also, what a whacky game. As much as I bashed NL baseball it is fun to see Mo have to hit.
Can anyone think of a time when a closer was pitching to a closer????

Anyway, with the bases loaded Mo worked a walk, and thus an RBI LOL
So, he really earned his 500th save


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