How to define and classify "Progressive Rock"?

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: He put all of us on his ignore list then realized he had no one to talk to.

Edited by Cristi - May 31 2022 at 10:53

Psychedelic Paul wrote: It looks like David has dropped out of his own thread and left us all to it, probably because most of us disagree with him about defining and classifying Prog Rock.

David_D wrote: Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: He put all of us on his ignore list then realized he had no one to talk to. Would you like me to leave PA, Ian?

I don't. Your posts interest me.

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: He put all of us on his ignore list then realized he had no one to talk to.

^ It was a joke coming out of my twisted mind. 

Yup, I'd rather see a grumpy member here rather than the angry ones. Hey, I also get easily angry. So I presume I wouldn't want to see myself on this forum. Too much logic spoils the fun, I'd better stop. 

Archisorcerus wrote: ^ It was a joke coming out of my twisted mind.  Yup, I'd rather see a grumpy member here rather than the angry ones. Hey, I also get easily angry. So I presume I wouldn't want to see myself on this forum. Too much logic spoils the fun, I'd better stop.

I agree with your logic and these forums are better with you in them.

"Objectivity" has been mentioned. ;-) 

There's another thread on PA where "objective reviews" are mentioned. Actually, there's quite a few threads on PA about objectivity. 

You can't be objective about music. You can only be subjective. Music is art, you can't describe art with a science. (Or vice versa.) 

I won't shake Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus at you, but the last line says 

"Whereof we cannot speak, thereof we must remain silent". 

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Tractatus_Logico-Philosophicus

Endless hair splitting here on PA will not produce a definition of what is, or what is not "Progressive rock". It will produce a mass of opinions (welcome to the internet) where everyone is convinced that their opinion carries more weight than everyone else's. (Welcome to the internet again.) 

To jump from Ludwig von Wittgenstein to Dirty Harry - 

"Opinions are like a****les, everyone has one". 

And of course, PA posters will endlessly try to dissect "What is prog rock / is <band x> prog rock / is <guitarist A> better than <guitarist B>"  - instead of actually listening to and enjoying the music. 

Which is what music is about. It's for enjoying, not some kind of pseudo intellectual microscopic examination. 

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: David_D wrote: Would you like me to leave PA, Ian?  Nope, I don't always agree with you and some of your post irritate me but I'm sure mine do the same to you. I doubt anything I could say would change your posting style. As I've said before I tend to treat some of your posts as an exercise in method acting. I'll continue to call you out when it seems appropriate but no I don't want you to leave. It's an internet forum everyone is welcome to their opinion as long as they don't denigrate or threaten other users. There's an expectation of reasonable forum behavior on sites that don't specialize in flame wars. This isn't one of those sites any more and for that I am thankful.

"If you think the topic is not worth discussing, why not stay away rather than posting that you think it's not worth postings?"

To try and get people to THINK before they post endless, endless pointless questions. 

Which is the point I was trying to make. Stop dissecting music. Discuss it, enjoy it, don't pick it to pieces. 

David_D wrote: Psychedelic Paul wrote: It looks like David has dropped out of his own thread and left us all to it, probably because most of us disagree with him about defining and classifying Prog Rock.  The real problem is the ethics in much of this.