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Kati 
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 Posted: July 05 2014 at 01:40 |
hahahahahhaha!!!! Dean hahahaha!!!!  you got my point hahaha!!!! You just made me realize it's even worse!!! hahahaha!!!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 05 2014 at 01:45 |
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I demand that I may or may not be Vroomfondle...
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Kati
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Posted: July 05 2014 at 01:56 |
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I demand that I may or may not be Vroomfondle...
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hahahaha! Slartibartfast  Vroomfondle unlike other philosophers he had a touch of madness and was most brilliant too, what he says fascinates me and makes sense really. i.e. he was witty, his statements highlighting the obvious in human nature/action while taking the micky of all this! He is the king of metaphor! And what he says is makes you think too :) xxxx
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Kati
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Posted: July 05 2014 at 01:57 |
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Vroomfondel sums up the ridiculousness of their position nicely when he says, "we demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!" (25.68). That's like asking for dry water, which is an impossibility. (Although with the Infinite Improbability Drive, maybe we could get some dry water.) On top of that, though, it shows the way some academic types can get it all wrong by insisting that everything can be rigidly classified. How, exactly, can you "rigidly define" doubt and uncertainty? :) xxxxx
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 05 2014 at 09:14 |
I'll take my yogurt shaken and then stirred. 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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mariner14
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Posted: July 08 2014 at 19:24 |
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To Kati...you talk a lot but you say nothing.............my point is you will never have equality between men and women....on average, women won't match men physically...as for intelligence...well that's up for debate...however multi tasking is not the be all and end all....That is why (and it has been proven) men make better scientists, because they are able to concentrate on one task. Feminism, does it really exist??
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: July 08 2014 at 20:44 |
mariner14 wrote:
To Kati...you talk a lot but you say nothing.............my point is you will never have equality between men and women....on average, women won't match men physically...as for intelligence...well that's up for debate...however multi tasking is not the be all and end all....That is why (and it has been proven) men make better scientists, because they are able to concentrate on one task. Feminism, does it really exist??
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It has been proven that men make better scientists than women? Really? Please provide empirical evidence from this century, please. That women have been denied access to certain positions is verifiable, not that they aren't intelligent enough to handle the work specified.
Usually, women are denied by Neanderthals who make such patristic and misogynistic statements.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Luna
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Posted: July 08 2014 at 20:47 |
mariner14 wrote:
To Kati...you talk a lot but you say nothing.............my point is you will never have equality between men and women....on average, women won't match men physically...as for intelligence...well that's up for debate...however multi tasking is not the be all and end all....That is why (and it has been proven) men make better scientists, because they are able to concentrate on one task. Feminism, does it really exist??
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lol this is disgusting
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A Person
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Posted: July 08 2014 at 20:48 |
Luna wrote:
mariner14 wrote:
To Kati...you talk a lot but you say nothing.............my point is you will never have equality between men and women....on average, women won't match men physically...as for intelligence...well that's up for debate...however multi tasking is not the be all and end all....That is why (and it has been proven) men make better scientists, because they are able to concentrate on one task. Feminism, does it really exist??
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lol this is disgusting |
like i said when he first posted, troll
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Luna
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Posted: July 08 2014 at 20:52 |
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Seems to be the case
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Kati
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Posted: July 08 2014 at 22:04 |
mariner14 wrote:
To Kati...you talk a lot but you say nothing.............my point is you will never have equality between men and women....on average, women won't match men physically...as for intelligence...well that's up for debate...however multi tasking is not the be all and end all....That is why (and it has been proven) men make better scientists, because they are able to concentrate on one task. Feminism, does it really exist??
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Mariner,
Do you even realize what you say? I was up for debate on what you said, that is until you said and I quote: “That is why (and it has been proven) men make better scientists, because they are able to concentrate on one task. Feminism, does it really exist??” Groan, really?? Please back up what you said with proof, based on proven studies and related statistics? What you said about me is a matter of opinion I can understand this, however the lather, you have no basis to state that, it’s redundant and an insult to everyone including your fellow brethren. Saying things like this to me is pure ignorance, leaves no space for communication and certainly makes one not interested to go further into debate with you. I am not a feminist but things you say certainly light fire to their cause.
P.S. (With pun intended) if men were better in concentrating in doing just one single task, why is it that car insurance for women is much cheaper compared to men?
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Dean
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Posted: July 09 2014 at 00:21 |
A Person wrote:
Luna wrote:
mariner14 wrote:
To Kati...you talk a lot but you say nothing.............my point is you will never have equality between men and women....on average, women won't match men physically...as for intelligence...well that's up for debate...however multi tasking is not the be all and end all....That is why (and it has been proven) men make better scientists, because they are able to concentrate on one task. Feminism, does it really exist??
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lol this is disgusting |
like i said when he first posted, troll |
I gave him the benefit of the doubt and even defended him. Not this time.
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What?
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 09 2014 at 00:35 |
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Personal issues we all have about the opposite sex aside, thinking men
make better scientists (or anything else) because they can better focus on one thing is, well, sad. So
scientists are poor multitaskers? Yeah, give it up.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 09 2014 at 01:11 |
mariner14 wrote:
To Kati...you talk a lot but you say nothing.............my point is you will never have equality between men and women....on average, women won't match men physically...as for intelligence...well that's up for debate...however multi tasking is not the be all and end all....That is why (and it has been proven) men make better scientists, because they are able to concentrate on one task. Feminism, does it really exist??
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With respect, you're talking mostly boll0cks..
I work in science and in particular our Bioscience division reports that almost 70% of their recruits over the last 5 years have been women. According to our Biokinetics group leader the vast majority of guys who come for interview are in his words "useless" in terms of how they perfom in both technical and personal interviews. More women than ever are becoming engineers too.
Traditionally science was more 'available' to boys. Now anone can study for these qualifications and that's how it should be. Traditionally it always interested boys more but this was largely due to the conditioning of children to encourage them to grow up performing traditional male and female roles in society. Times have changed. You're not obligated to like it, but you will have to accept it.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Dean
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Posted: July 09 2014 at 02:57 |
All this is comparative and correlation does not imply causation, "studies that show..." seldom produce the absolute conclusions that get reported in the popular press.
If one gender is better at something it does not imply that the opposite gender cannot, 'better' is a comparative and does not lead to absolutes. If I am better at drawing than painting it does not mean I cannot paint and it does not mean I am good at drawing; similarly if Sonia is better at drawing than I am it does not imply that I cannot draw or she is better at painting than me. We both have the ability to draw and paint and I believe we have both demonstrated a level of aptitude in this area of artistic endeavour that is better than some and worse than others. The scale of comparative talent does not mean that I should put down my pens and brushes if it is shown that her artwork is better than mine or mine be dismissed because hers shows better draftsmanship or brushwork.
Both genders can multitask and both are capable of concentrating on a single task, being good at one does not mean you are bad at the other.
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Kati
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Posted: July 09 2014 at 03:24 |
Dean wrote:
All this is comparative and correlation does not imply causation, "studies that show..." seldom produce the absolute conclusions that get reported in the popular press. If one gender is better at something it does not imply that the opposite gender cannot, 'better' is a comparative and does not lead to absolutes. If I am better at drawing than painting it does not mean I cannot paint and it does not mean I am good at drawing; similarly if Sonia is better at drawing than I am it does not imply that I cannot draw or she is better at painting than me. We both have the ability to draw and paint and I believe we have both demonstrated a level of aptitude in this area of artistic endeavour that is better than some and worse than others. The scale of comparative talent does not mean that I should put down my pens and brushes if it is shown that her artwork is better than mine or mine be dismissed because hers shows better draftsmanship or brushwork. Both genders can multitask and both are capable of concentrating on a single task, being good at one does not mean you are bad at the other.
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Cooee, my name is Sonia too and I am a nincompoop lol I am certainly not better and to be honest at most I am annoying
P.S. I think I can draw and paint, this is a hobby of mine however I don't nor have no idea how to use Photoshop 
Edited by Kati - July 09 2014 at 05:02
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Gerinski
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Posted: July 09 2014 at 03:48 |
thellama73 wrote:
I think men and women should have equal rights.Can anyone name a right that men have in the United States (where I live and know about) that women do not have?If not, can we retire the whole subject?
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Unfortunately having the same rights in front of the law does not mean being treated with equal fairness in practice. Even in Europe and the US women are frequently discriminated or even abused by men. This may be controversial, but in general men seem more capable to embrace perversion, cruelty or sadism than women.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:46 |
Gerinski wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I think men and women should have equal rights.Can anyone name a right that men have in the United States (where I live and know about) that women do not have?If not, can we retire the whole subject?
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Unfortunately having the same rights in front of the law does not mean being treated with equal fairness in practice. Even in Europe and the US women are frequently discriminated or even abused by men. This may be controversial, but in general men seem more capable to embrace perversion, cruelty or sadism than women. |
The first bit's fine but then you appear to state than men are more perverted, crueler and more sadistic than women? We both might agree that neither gender has a monopoly on 'deviation from the norm' (if that's what perversion is - are you saying that women are more conditioned to conforming to a stereotypical role than men and that this is somehow a healthy thing?) Both the Marquis de Sade and Leopold von Sacher-Masoch had external genitals certainty, but the identification of purportedly sexual anomalies that bear their names cannot be construed as 'just a guy thing' surely?
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Dean
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Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:51 |
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Miss Whiplash probably doesn't think so...
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The T
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Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:58 |
mariner14 wrote:
To Kati...you talk a lot but you say nothing.............my point is you will never have equality between men and women....on average, women won't match men physically...as for intelligence...well that's up for debate...however multi tasking is not the be all and end all....That is why (and it has been proven) men make better scientists, because they are able to concentrate on one task. Feminism, does it really exist??
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The only thing up for debate here is your intelligence. And the only thing that has been proven here is that you are an idiot.
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