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^ Well done, you're the man ! Big smile

Yes,  I've been experiencing the same difficulties on the admin page, and especially  uploading images it's been slooooooow
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2017 at 10:15
just expanded bio for Thork
and included a link to the bio of related group NIL.
Thanks for teaching me that Jose

also added timelines to John Martyn, but didn't want to mess with the substance of Hugues superb bio so made it clear I only added timeline.  I did change all 2 digit years to 4 digit, which I think is a good policy since I'm hoping music nerds in the 23rd century might read some of this and be glad to know which 76 we are referring to!

Slso, for some reason apostrophes sometimes show up as question marks(?).  I re-updated them and those question marks are gone at least for now


Edited by kenethlevine - December 09 2017 at 10:46
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^ Good work, mate !  (Hey guys, Ken is shaming us badly Ouch)

If you want you can also enhance the text with <B>BOLD</B> or <I>Italic</I>, etc.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2017 at 12:26
hi all
I also updated the prog folk home sub genre page to link to the PA artists mentioned.  I did not link to artists not on PA
But captcha is going crazy now, asking me to identify bridges cars and apartment buildings every time I do an update, twice.  Very kafkaesque.  It says that running anti virus software helps with this, but I already have that.  Has anything that suppresses these constant messages worked for you ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Quinino Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2017 at 12:54
Nothing that I know of appeases the craptcha monster !!!!
(Do never forget to backup, at least to the clipboard, before submitting any message/post/whatever)
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Are we loosing steam ?
Guys, please post your progress here, as little as it may be - remember we all need some encouragement
I'm actually finishing some discog updates before starting myself the (re)writing process of the much needed bios (plan to begin with Miles Davis, huge task frightens me a bit)
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Hey Quinino, I was about to take a crack at Thinking Plague then saw the bio was yours (I think), you ok if I do a pretty full rewrite?
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 Thanks for asking mate but, if I remember well, only updated webpage, changed photo and added the headline (I guess the bio must still be the one you wrote back in the day, no?)
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Wasn't sure, doesn't sound like me 😁
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Just guessing ... since you were the "father" of the band ... it's your time then to assume full parentship 🍼
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New Thinking Plague bio posted, happy to receive feedback on any edits.
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Minor adjustment to Cardiacs bio made.

My next 5 are :- Henry Cow, Art Zoyd, Present, Dun, Kayo Dot
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2017 at 20:09
revised a very old bio for Los Jaivas.  It had a lot of non native speaker errors.  I also removed the part where one song is discussed in detail and replaced it with more info about the discography and where the band was when they made the albums.

Please let me know what you think!

I know I'm all excited to listen to more of their albums


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Peter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2017 at 21:25
I just read the Gentle Giant bio: many ESL errors.
Unfortunately, I have long found that to be the case with many band bios here, but in the early days, no one seemed to care. (I think they wanted things to be "democratic," but I always thought that the non-grammatical writing made the site look amateurish.)

It's good if there is now the will and capacity to polish up those bios. I could help, for I am a qualified English teacher. 🙂
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^ Weeeeeelcome to the posse, Peter !
( we shared some editing tips a few pages behind, if you wish give them a look - and feel free to share your own Smile)
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Will do. Thanks, Quinino.
My focus would simply be on grammar and standard English, while retaining the intent of the original text. I wouldn't be looking to add band information.
I do this for a living, so my editing here would be occasional, as I find the time and energy.

Right now, I am using only a smart phone on here (and it's awkward), so when I get a new laptop in the near future, I should be ready to start. I also want to edit some of my old reviews a bit--and write some new ones! 🙂
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Quinino Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2017 at 07:59
^  Your friendly stance encourages me to dare ask you this - would you consider revising my own future bios on that linguistical aspects  ? (I hesitate doing more because of my limitations)
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As promised, new Pink Floyd bio for Jose to upload, please, IF I can get past bloody Craptcha!!

Pink Floyd

One of the biggest bands of all time

Of all the bands who come under the progressive rock banner, Pink Floyd are, arguably, the act most recognisable in the wider music community to music lovers of all genres. Yet, as revealed famously by Nick Mason in an old interview, even at the height of their fame, they could walk down any street, and passers-by would not have recognised a member of one of the most commercially successful acts in music history.

The band were formed in London in 1965, the original members being Roger (known as Syd) Barrett on vocals and lead guitar, Nick Mason on drums, Roger Waters on bass guitar and vocals, and Richard Wright on keyboards.

The London of the late 1960’s was a melting pot of live acts and varying musical genres, and the band gained a cult following amongst the underground psychedelic crowd of the time. This expanded into a more public consciousness with a residency at the famous UFO Club, with a hypnotic light show and pulsating, often indescribable, sounds. This led to television appearances, most famously an interview and live performance on BBC The Look of the Week, with a rather bemused classical performer Hans Keller in tow. Waters was famously asked just why everything had to be so loud?!

This popularity led to the band signing to EMI, who in 1967 released two hit singles, See Emily Play, which attracted controversy regarding its cross-dressing themes, and Arnold Layne. They charted in the UK at 20 and 6 respectively.

The debut album which followed, Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, is universally recognised as being hugely influential in rock music, beyond the narrow confines of psychedelia. It peaked at number 6 in the UK album charts in 1967, and the band continued to play not only their residency, but also increasing numbers of national gigs and festivals.

The strain, however, was beginning to tell on Barrett, and a fragile mental state, exacerbated by LSD, led to him becoming almost semi-detached from the band and wider reality. The situation became such that the band, at the end of 1967, drafted in David Gilmour to play alongside, or instead of, Barrett at gigs. By early 1968, matters came to a head, with the band famously waiting for Barrett to arrive for transportation to a gig, not turning up, and, when asked if they should pick him up, an unnamed band member saying not to bother. It was the end of the band leader’s tenure, and, as he would famously state in later years, Waters took up the mantle “because no one else would”.

The period between Barrett leaving and the release of Meddle in 1971 saw the band continuing to experiment with varying musical forms, and varying degrees of success. The side long epic from Meddle, Echoes, became a soundtrack for several filmed projects, and the album can, in retrospect, be seen as the end to a transitional period, prior to world dominance.

That dominance came in 1973 with the release of Dark Side Of The Moon. Many critics and fans alike have wondered why this album came to be so hugely popular. Nobody had ever really heard anything like it before, with its live recordings of workers at, or passing by, Abbey Road studios ruminating on life, death, the universe, and everything, its use of terrific sound effects, massive themes, operatic solos, interspersed with a huge hit single in Money. Certainly, the album is a landmark of progressive excellence, but it was also lucky in its success. As with Oldfield’s Tubular Bells, the album was released just as cheap high street credit enabled music lovers to own the modern hi-fi systems which brought the exceptional sound engineering of Alan Parsons to vivid life. The album was both a product and symbol of its time.

Dark Side charted for years, and, to this day, sells in its millions.

The 1975 follow-up, Wish You Were Here, more grandiose in scope than its predecessor, also topped the charts worldwide. The Floyd bestrode the world as its undisputed commercial rock leaders.

The success, though, took its toll. Barrett, who had mysteriously turned up at the recording of Wish You Were Here, in an abject state, not even recognisable at first sight, had become mentally ill and detached from the wider world. Waters became detached from the band he led, perhaps because of the mental tensions of a communist having to deal with such vast sums of money and fame. He certainly felt that, when the band reconvened for the recording of the successor album, his bandmates, and Wright in particular, were not pulling their weight, and the resultant Animals, released in 1977, was, a Gilmour collaboration on one track aside, entirely his work. The band were becoming a Waters backing outfit, and the invective in this album, described by more than a few as the finest punk rock album of all time, was quite shocking. The album was also famous for the publicity stunt of a giant inflatable pig leaving its moorings at Battersea Park, London, and disrupting flights into and out of the city.

The resultant tour became famous for the inspiration behind the music and lyrics which would eventually be recorded as The Wall, when Waters spat on a fan screaming a little bit too enthusiastically in a musical passage, thus cementing, to him, the disconnect which had arisen between band and fans in the large stadia they were playing (although this did not prevent, in later years, Waters touring in such venues as a solo artist).

The Animals tour was not the only reason for The Wall coming to life. In 1978, financial investment firm Norton-Warburg crashed, with much of The Floyd’s money crashing with it. Suddenly, the band found themselves on the verge of financial ruin, and a new album and tour became not so much a musical necessity, as an exercise in sheer survival.

The Wall was released in 1979, and, again, topped the charts worldwide. The theatrical tour, with Waters and the band hidden literally by a wall built during the show, prior to being torn down revealing the author’s innermost fears and prejudices, was ground-breaking and breath-taking in its scope. The band, though, were falling apart. First to go was Richard Wright, who was fired by Waters, with, he has always insisted, the full participation of Mason & Gilmour. Wright did, though, take full part in the world tour, although on a salary (Gilmour later said that Wright, as a result, was the only member who made money out of an incredibly expensive tour). The band, by now, were barely speaking to each other.

Waters, Gilmour, and Mason (although the latter not on all the album) did reconvene for one last recording, the aptly titled The Final Cut, released in 1983. The album sold well, but nowhere near as much as previous works, and was described by Mason as the shining example of how not to make an album. It was, in effect, a Waters solo album in all but name. Waters subsequently left the band, with Mason, again, wryly observing that if he had really wanted to call a halt to proceedings, he would have been better remaining inside, and merely not bothering to do anything.

The band had now lost two hugely influential leaders over time in Barrett and Waters, but Gilmour and Mason, doggedly, refused to give up, and, with a rehired Richard Wright (on a salary), they proceeded to delight the rock music world with the announcement and recording of a new album, A Momentary Lapse of Reason, in 1987. The album was musically the work of Gilmour, with lyrics penned by a variety of contributors. The decision, which was a risk financially for Gilmour & Mason, was more than justified in terms of commercial success. It was more of a mainstream Floyd rock album than its immediate predecessors, and the subsequent, huge, world tours which resulted utilised, to incredible effect, the massive advancements which had arisen in digital technology. Pink Floyd were, once again, at the top of the tree in terms of critical and commercial success.

The band were to release one more album, The Division Bell, in 1994, with Wright returning to co and sole song writing duties for the first time in some 19 years, and Gilmour’s wife, Polly Samson, writing the bulk of the lyrics to Gilmour’s music. The album, single High Hopes, and tour were a massive commercial success again.

The album would prove to be the band’s recording swansong, although both Waters and Gilmour continued to release solo albums. In 2005, at the insistence of the inimitable Bob Geldof, the classic line-up reconvened for a live performance one last time, with a short set of classics from Dark Side, Wish, and The Wall. In 2006, Barrett died from cancer, and, in 2008, Wright died of the same condition, the latter demise putting paid to any hope the music world might have had of more Floyd, although both surviving members have played together on Waters solo tour of The Wall.

Pink Floyd are listed on the Prog Archives site as belonging to the Psychedelic/Space Rock sub-genre. In reality, that period ended in the early 1970’s, and they became so much more than that. For anyone wishing to explore the era of 1970’s musical behemoths bestriding the rock world, The Pink Floyd are simply an essential part of that musical journey.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2017 at 12:37
Steve, that's a great bio.  I've never considered myself a fan of the group, so I don't know how much new info it provides to existing fans, but it's very well organized, presented and written has seems like it contains essential information for somebody wanting to learn about them.   And I just learned a lot.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2017 at 13:14
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Steve, that's a great bio.  I've never considered myself a fan of the group, so I don't know how much new info it provides to existing fans, but it's very well organized, presented and written has seems like it contains essential information for somebody wanting to learn about them.   And I just learned a lot.


Hey, Ken. That's really kind of you to say so, thank you.

I think that this little team we have here has the potential to make a big difference to this site, particularly those who, unlike us are somewhat new to the genre.
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