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MorgothSunshine 
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 Topic: Metropolis pt.2 lyrics
Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:10 |
Why so many people says that DT lyrics are bad, i think in metropolis pt.2 they did a great job.  Yes, the lyrics are simple but so good for the theatrical concept story...
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:16 |
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I think DT's lyrics are excellent myself.
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:29 |
why? ' 'carry me to the shoreline, bury me in the sand, walk me acrossed the water... 'once the stone you're crawling under is lifted off your shoulder'.......nuff said. Anyone who puts that on a record on purpose should be shot on site.
Don't make me whip out Take Away My Pain lyrics. Those are cruel and unusual punishment.
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goose
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:39 |
 JMCecil wrote:
why? ' 'carry me to the shoreline, bury me in the sand, walk me acrossed the water... 'once the stone you're crawling under is lifted off your shoulder'.......nuff said. Anyone who puts that on a record on purpose should be shot on site.
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I like that song  .
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:54 |
goose wrote:
JMCecil wrote:
why? ' 'carry me to the shoreline, bury me in the sand, walk me acrossed the water... 'once the stone you're crawling under is lifted off your shoulder'.......nuff said. Anyone who puts that on a record on purpose should be shot on site.
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I like that song .
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I like lots of songs where the lyrics could be written by a 3rd grader. The question was, "why do people hate on DT lyrics"
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goose
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:57 |
But I sing along to it and everything .
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:59 |
goose wrote:
But I sing along to it and everything . |
hehehehe
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Logos
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:01 |
JMCecil wrote:
why? ' 'carry me to the shoreline, bury me in the
sand, walk me acrossed the water... 'once the stone you're
crawling under is lifted off your shoulder'.......nuff
said. Anyone who puts that on a record on purpose
should be shot on site.
Don't make me whip out Take Away My Pain lyrics. Those are cruel and unusual punishment. |
Yawn.. what has that got to do with Metropolis pt. 2?
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:10 |
Logos wrote:
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Yawn.. what has that got to do with Metropolis pt. 2? [/QUOTE]
Sorry, the question was broader than that. He said he thought the lyrics in pt. 2 were pretty good. Then went on to ask why people made fun of their lyrics. I actually think the pt 2 lyrics are bretty bargain bin myself but I think DT lyrics ruin 99% of their music.
When I first heard Images and Words when it came out I almost fell off the sofa laughing. Fortunately there are enough great musical moments that you can block out the high school prose contest. I can't say the same for most of what followed.
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:16 |
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God tour hard to pleasa Cecil, did you really fall of your sofa? Or is that poetic license?
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:21 |
Snow Dog wrote:
God tour hard to pleasa Cecil, did you really fall of your sofa? Or is that poetic license? |
Bad poetic license, I was busy looking in the book of rhymes for something that worked with sofa.
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:24 |
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And, I'm not that hard to please really. But if someone asks a question that suggests that anyone who answer is going to give a negative reply, that's what they should expect. I think DT has some great musical ideas, but the lyrics are cheezy as all get out. The amount of cliche in them is unbelievable.
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arkitek
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 16:05 |
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DT lyrics are AMAZING!
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:18 |
arkitek wrote:
DT lyrics are AMAZING! |
Exactly, except on some songs on ToT, maybe Portnoy could swear a bit less.
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Fibonacci's Se
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:26 |
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ok im giong to have to back up JMCecil,...Dream Theater lyrics,
although arent that bad(ok mabey they are,) contain no meaning, its
spelled out 1..2..3 no thouhgt involved, in my opinion to be great
lyrically they words have to provok thought, carry meaning - in that
sense DT lyrics are not very good
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cajole the promethean king while his pastiche panjandrum is caught within soleism, genuflect, avoid malversation
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:38 |
Fibonacci's Se wrote:
1..2..3 |
hmmm...your name and the series in the same quote. Coincidence or Conspiracy?
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Logos
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:40 |
JMCecil wrote:
Sorry, the question was broader than that. He said he thought
the lyrics in pt. 2 were pretty good. Then went on to ask why
people made fun of their lyrics. I actually think the pt 2 lyrics
are bretty bargain bin myself but I think DT lyrics ruin 99% of their
music.
When I first heard Images and Words when it came out I almost
fell off the sofa laughing. Fortunately there are enough great
musical moments that you can block out the high school prose
contest. I can't say the same for most of what followed. |
Okay. Well I have to agree with you: some of DT lyrics are horrendous.
But they're not the only one; just look at Yes - most of the time their lyrics make no sense.
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:43 |
Logos wrote:
But they're not the only one; just look at Yes - most of the time their lyrics make no sense.
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That's because you dont speak colloquial English!
They make perfect sense to anybody from Lancashire!
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JMCecil
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:43 |
Logos wrote:
Okay. Well I have to agree with you: some of DT lyrics are horrendous.
But they're not the only one; just look at Yes - most of the time their lyrics make no sense.
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Hey I don't disagree with that at all. Especially the later Yes. In fact its almost the same random sampling of blah blah blah. The earlier Yes, although occassionaly goofey, was based on spiritualism and had roots in the chanting and rhythms of other cultures. There are no roots for the fluff that DT writes.
I'm not defending other bands bad lyrics at all. I was just answering the question. It wasn't meant to insult DT fans.
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 20:21 |
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Nicholas:
Where did we come from?
Why are we here?
Where do we go when we die?
What lies beyond
And what lay before?
Is anything certain in life?
They say, "Life is too short,"
"The here and the now"
And "You're only given one shot"
But could there be more,
Have I lived before,
Or could this be all that we've got?
If I die tomorrow
I'd be allright
Because I believe
That after we're gone
The spirit carries on
I used to be frightened of dying
I used to think death was the end
But that was before
I'm not scared anymore
I know that my soul will transcend
I may never find all the answers
I may never understand why
I may never prove
What I know to be true
But I know that I still have to try
If I die tomorrow
I'd be allright
Because I believe
That after we're gone
The spirit carries on
Victoria:
"Move on, be brave
Don't weep at my grave
Because I am no longer here
But please never let
Your memory of me disappear"
Nicholas:
Safe in the light that surrounds me
Free of the fear and the pain
My questioning mind
Has helped me to find
The meaning in my life again
Victoria's real
I finally feel
At peace with the girl in my dreams
And now that I'm here
It's perfectly clear
I found out what all of this means
If I die tomorrow
I'd be allright
Because I believe
That after we're gone
The spirit carries on
WTF? No meaning? These are some of my favourite lyrics. This is some powerful stuff. Once again this all comes down to "It's Dream Theater... so it's crap".
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Metropolis pt.2 lyrics
