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    Posted: January 26 2009 at 08:56
Does any of You know the Danish band called Savage Rose, i would say they deserve a spot on PA.
 
Infact they are progressive at a very early point in history.
 
 The Savage Rose (The Yellow Album) - 1968
 In the Plain - 1968
 Travellin’ - 1969
 Your Daily Gift - 1971 
 Refugee - 1971
 
Read the BIO here :
 
 
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Points: 3069 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 09:25
Hej DanskerBig smile
 
Ja jeg kender dem selvfølgelig godt og havde også tænkt mig at foreslå dem på et tidspunkt. Du skal dog bruge Suggest new bands siden. Hvis du vil foreslå dem er det en god ide at have nogle argumenter klar for hvorfor de vil være en gevinst for PA og derudover nogle samples af deres mest progressive sider. Derudover skal du gøre dig nogle tanker om hvilket sub-genre de ville passe bedst ind i. Mit forsl*g ville være proto-prog. Man må iøvrigt kun skrive på engelsk her, så jeg laver lige en lille forkortet oversættelse.
 
Ps. har du ikke glemt Dødens Triumf ? Og velkommen iøvrigt. Hvis du har nogen spørgsmål er du velkommen til at kontakte mig. Jeg har nogle af Savage Rose albums digitalt hvis du skulle få brug for samples.
 
A short translation of my above text is that I suggested tamijo to place his suggestion in the suggest bands section and make sure that he provide some samples for the team to listen to. I will only write in English from now on but it sure felt good to write something in my own language for once.
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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 10:00
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Hej DanskerBig smile 
A short translation of my above text is that I suggested tamijo to place his suggestion in the suggest bands section and make sure that he provide some samples for the team to listen to. I will only write in English from now on but it sure felt good to write something in my own language for once.
 
Hi UMUR
 
I just wanted to c the reaction first, would anyone know them, would the be considered Prog.
ect ect.
The make a more formal suggestion if any interest.
 
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Points: 3069 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 10:31
Good idea.
 
I´ve seen other people mention The Savage Rose here on PA but not many. That doesn´t mean that they wouldn´t make a great addition to the site though. Remember to contact me if you need any help with the suggestion part.
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I second (or third Wink) Savage Rose's inclusion.
 
I've only heard their fifth Dodens Truimf, which I know is not that representative of the usual stuff theu do, but reading up on the band, there is no doubt they're prog.
 
I can see them in Psych prog (no doubt Eetu and the boys will bevaluate this ) or in Proto-prog
 
 
 
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Points: 3069 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 11:31
I agree with either psych or proto, but I lean most against proto, but like you Sean I haven´t listened to that much of their rather large discography. But I do know that they are one of the most important influences on the seventies progressive rock scene in Denmark. My guess is that their first couple of albums are in the psych catagory and that later albums ( late sixties/ early seventies albums, not their later albums) are more experimental/ progressive. Is that true tamijo?
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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 12:46
Just briefy relistened the 1st. (selftiled) and yes they could well be described as Proto Prog, allthough the are somehow a lot more experimental/jazzy than The Door or The Beatless.
 
Later (late 70's ) they travel in the former East Europe and start taking inspiration from the local folk traditions there, becomming more of a " Political left/anarcistic Prog/Folk band", and even later (from mid 90's) they start making music of a modern and "POP" like sound (like PG's SO) combining lots of styles. Jazz POP Reggae ect ect. 
 
If interested start with the first 5-6 albums, they are most interesting seen from a PA view.
(and maby a bit more easy to understand, because vocals are in English)
 
NB.: From 1995 they are in English again. But less directly Prog. 
 
 
 


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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 13:19
For those that do not read Danish...
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Hey Danish
 
Yes of course I know them well and also liked to propose them at a time. However, you must use the Suggest new bands since. To suggest it is a good idea to have some clear arguments for why they would be a gain for the PA and also some samples of their most progressive pages. Additionally, do you some thoughts about what sub-genre they would fit better into in. My suggestion would be proto-prog. It should otherwise only write in English here, so I make just a little abbreviated translation.
 
Ps. you have not forgotten Dødens Triumf ? And welcome otherwise. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me. Jeg har nogle af Savage Rose albums digitalt hvis du skulle få brug for samples
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Points: 3069 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 14:22

Yeah I know what you think Dean, but they are legalSmile.

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Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Yeah I know what you think Dean, but they are legalSmile.

Be that as it may (and many have claimed to know what I think, only a few have succeeded Wink)  - the rules of the forum are all posts are in to be English - although my translation is crude and I made no attempt to make it grammatically correct, it did reveal a possible further infraction of the rules. Thank you for the clarification.
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Points: 3069 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 14:54
No problem and your translation were actually very goodThumbs Up.
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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 16:11

Im not sure how to get "legal" samples, from the early period.

I got CD's (LEGAL!!) , but im not sure if it would be legal to share a copyrighted CD sample.
 
 
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 16:12
^ it is not legal to share copyrighted material. Sorry.
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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 16:23
No i understand that perfectly, but how do people provide samples then, do i have to contact the artist ?
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Based on your suggestion, together with UMUR's and Hugues's further recommendations and from what I've heard on their MySpace page, I feel that a case for their inclusion could be made in the Suggest New Bands thread so that Eetu and the team can evaluate them for Psyche/Space or pass them on for Proto-Prog inclusion.

 
 
 
If you could give links to MySpace and YouTube tracks that give a good indication of their Progressive output that would be of great help.
 
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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 17:07
Thanks a lot, Thumbs Up
I will check them out and make an entry at the Suggest page soon
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 17:09
^ This is now the Band Suggestion Page for Savage Rose - I've moved it Wink
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Points: 6521 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2009 at 18:25
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

 
A short translation of my above text is that I suggested tamijo to place his suggestion in the suggest bands section and make sure that he provide some samples for the team to listen to. I will only write in English from now on but it sure felt good to write something in my own language for once.
 
And it gets me to practice my "paternal language" Wink.
 
Such a cool band though, right up my alley. Didn't know about them, so thanks for sharing. I've only sampled what last.fm, but so far, I'm loving the vocalist.
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Points: 3069 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2009 at 00:09
I´ve found the perfect place for samples: http://www.thesavagerose.com/srworks.html
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Points: 3069 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2009 at 00:27
And yes June. Annisette is a fantastic vocalist. Very original and powerful.
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