Frippless King Crimson "Spinoff" Bands

Also 21st Century Schizoid Band, featuring Mel Collins, Michael Giles (later replaced by Ian Wallace), Peter Giles, Ian McDonald and Jakko Jackszyk. Although they have only toured live, with no own studio albums.

Edited by Gerinski - January 22 2023 at 05:48

I hear Yes is pretty good.  Bruford, Anderson, Levin...

Gerinski wrote: Also 21st Century Schizoid Band, featuring Mel Collins, Michael Giles (later replaced by Ian Wallace), Peter Giles, Ian McDonald and Jakko Jackszyk. Although they have only toured live, with no own studio albums.

Back when this one was around, if I had already known King Crimson, I would rather have seen Schizoid Band live than the actual King Crimson of the time.

yes-no-and-why wrote: I'd count the group that made Pete Sinfield's solo record, Still, even though they didn't play live.

Faul_McCartney wrote: By "spinoff", I mean they have at least two Crimson members, so not ELP. These would be Mcdonald and Giles, U.K., Bruford Levin Upper Extremities, TU, and Stick Men. Each of these very different bands represents a different period in KC's history and gives a glimpse of what the band would look like without its iconic guitarist. Other than maybe U.K., I don't see these discussed too often. What do you think of them?

The 'Brain Salad' album included Greg and Pete Sinfield. Just watched a documentary on that album and Pete had a lot to do with the direction of the album.

Edited by Easy Money - May 17 2023 at 10:33

McDonald and Giles was fascinating to me because it contained arrangements of pieces that King Crimson actually performed live when they toured Europe and the U.S. in 1969. Additionally some of the music on McDonald and Giles was written while they were touring.

Which gives Crimheads a glimpse into something else completely...as it is somewhat revealing as to what kind of an album King Crimson would have recorded if McDonald and Giles had remained in the group.

This particular subject has raised a lot of "what if's" and the possibilities of its outcome if McDonald and Giles had stayed. Some Crimheads have speculated that "Birdman" would have been the ultimate choice for King Crimson's second album and have went even further in stating that In The Wake Of Poseidon would have indeed NOT sounded like a poor attempt to repeat the sequence of musical odyssey on In The Court Of The Crimson King.

I appreciate the reality that McDonald and Giles was recorded and released. I often play McDonald and Giles..and Poseidon out of curious observation regarding just how different the second album would have been. At least we have both albums available to us and I'm thankful for that.

By the way, California Guitar Trio has two albums with Tony Levin and Pat Mastelotto (one live, one studio).

Awesoreno wrote: There was also a live spin-off called Crimson ProjeKct. They have a Live in Tokyo album released 2014.

Steve Hackett's mostly live album (17 live tracks plus 2 or 3 studio bonus tracks depending on release) "The Tokyo Tapes" is a nice live album with such a band featuring John Wetton on bass, guitar and vocals, Ian McDonald on flute, sax, guitar, keyboards and vocals, Julian Colbeck on keyboards and vocals, Chester Thompson on drums and Steve Hackett not just replacing Robert Fripp on guitar but also on harmonica and vocals. the band even plays two songs from ITCOTCK

How about KTU with Trey Gunn, Pat Mastelotto and Finnish accordionist Kimmo Pohjonen? 

Edited by Hiram - June 20 2023 at 23:09