Punks Hate Prog.

tuxon wrote: I think Sid vicious is turning in his grave over this.

My friend and fellow ProgArchiver Tuxon, I seriously doubt it . You can only turn in your grave about something when you can have some sort of intellectual activity in your brain, and Sid hardly had any when he was alive, since he was a near-retarded . I'm not sure that his IQ had gotten any higher in his afterdeath.

boo boo wrote: Cesar Inca wrote: tuxon wrote: I think Sid vicious is turning in his grave over this. My friend and fellow ProgArchiver Tuxon, I seriously doubt it . You can only turn in your grave about something when you can have some sort of intellectual activity in your brain, and Sid hardly had any when he was alive, since he was a near-retarded . I'm not sure that his IQ had gotten any higher in his afterdeath. he wasnt retarded, just talentless and wasted from drugs.

pretty sad he has more of a legacy (in music) than a slew of much more talented, educated and deserving prog 'musicians' - (something he was not)

NetsNJFan wrote: boo boo wrote: Cesar Inca wrote: tuxon wrote: I think Sid vicious is turning in his grave over this. My friend and fellow ProgArchiver Tuxon, I seriously doubt it . You can only turn in your grave about something when you can have some sort of intellectual activity in your brain, and Sid hardly had any when he was alive, since he was a near-retarded . I'm not sure that his IQ had gotten any higher in his afterdeath. he wasnt retarded, just talentless and wasted from drugs. pretty sad he has more of a legacy (in music) than a slew of much more talented, educated and deserving prog 'musicians' - (something he was not)

i know, hes the worst bass player ever...and ironicly, the most popular bass player ever.

Tiresias wrote: I watched Sid & Nancy last night.  It was funny.  Anywho,  I was at a library and picked up a book of the 50 worst albums of all time.  Instead of listing crappily-produced and moronic albums, they made entries of the following. ELP: Tarkus Yes: Tales From Topographic Oceans Jethro Tull: Aqualung It also listed this (paraphrased): "Genesis was one of the better prog bands, meaning they were boring only 90% of the time."   Thrown into a violent rage, I made the decision to retaliate (1: because I was furious, 2: because I knew that the book couldn't beat me up).  I hawked (sp?) the hugest lung oyster in the book and hid it tax code section, ensuring its eternal neglect. I know people are entitled to their opinion, but:

i know, but blender beats them all for pure bias...they did a list of the 50 worst artists ever...no NSYNC or backstreet boys but they had ELP at number 2...primus and the doors were also included...they also did a greatest guitarist list and johnny ramone was number 1, i wish that was a joke, but its not.

Tiresias wrote: I've seen tumors with hair more talented than Johnny Ramone...not to mention more intelligent and carrying a greater value to society.

that was a little too harsh dude...ramone is nothing special, but he made some good riffs and was pretty good at least for his genre...plus some classic rock songs under his belt.

NetsNJFan wrote: boo boo wrote: i know, but blender beats them all for pure bias...they did a list of the 50 worst artists ever...no NSYNC or backstreet boys but they had ELP at number 2...primus and the doors were also included...they also did a greatest guitarist list and johnny ramone was number 1, i wish that was a joke, but its not.  - Disgraceful, Ramone......Ramone?????? feh.

same magazine that called yngwie malmsteen a horrible guitarist.

Everyone knows that punk bands are just bitter because the musicians they ridicule studied their instruments well and are more skilled than those screaming, complaining, one-chord wonder bullsh1tters. I wrote him a lengthy email, but it wasn't as rude as that statement.

In fact, here's one paragraph of what I wrote him.:

"Keep in mind that what you write about prog you can write about any genre of music. I could go on for days about how stupid punk bands look (studs, dyed colored hair, laughable amounts of leather garments). You can complain about lyrics and compositions being too complex, and I can complain about lyrics and compositions being too bland and simplistic. You have no solid arguements other than "Prog fans are nerds, Prog makes you think too much, and Prog musicians studied their instruments too much so they actually created innovative, intelligent music rather than simplistic, one-chord wonders". Weak and uninspiring."

And the end...

And he had the nerve to ridicule Fripp, of all musicians. I let him have it for that.

Very well said noussommedusoleil... i like your cut-throat debate style