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Grumpyprogfan 
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 Topic: New Hiromi AlbumPosted: March 20 2025 at 12:15 |
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World-renowned pianist, Hiromi, releases her 13th studio album "Out There", a vivid display of electrifying fusion jazz. Joined by her band Hiromi’s Sonicwonder, the album features Adam O’Farrill (trumpet, w/pedals), Hadrien Feraud (bass) & Gene Coye (drums), following the release of Sonicwonderland (2023).
Release date is April 4, 2025. |
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Posted: April 05 2025 at 15:15 |
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Anyone else heard these lively groovin tunes?
The OUT THERE, four pack suite is a masterpiece. |
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Posted: April 06 2025 at 01:42 |
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Not the biggest jazz/fusion fan tbh but I will listen and report back!
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Posted: April 06 2025 at 08:48 |
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Hi, She is really good on the keys ... although my preference was some earlier stuff, and specially the one with that Harp player which was insane to say the least. There have been some amazing piano excursions that she played, and some of the special pieces with Stanley Clarke, Chick Corea were not exactly as good, and they were more of the "point" than she was, which made her limited and kinda controlled when it came to letting go and free form her way ... in many ways, I really thought that the ego displayed by both was not a good thing, and took away the better part of her own work, which is going free form ... and in many ways, this kinda says a lot about Chick and Stanley, as not exactly being the best solo performers at all ... maybe too mechanical even as jazz players ... however that is not saying that they are not good ... they still belong in the top with the best! But I don't think they will be able to keep Hiromi out of that pantheon. I really think that she makes Keith Jarrett sound repetitive and just mechanical in his own work. And by the time he became worried about the coughs in the audience, I think that his ability had gone down the stream already a while back ... and a sad thing to see, that's for sure. I think all of us want to see folks just plain ... live forever ... and never stop playing ... but we know this is not possible and few folks went into their 80's and 90's and still played their hearts out. I would like to see a solo album by Hiromi ... so she can better establish her own abilities, though I have a feeling that what she does best is work off other players!
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Posted: April 06 2025 at 09:31 |
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Posted: April 06 2025 at 09:38 |
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Hi, I'm not sure that her two solo albums (can't even tell which they are btw) are as good as some of her partnerships ... though I would like to hear her by herself, not doing known pieces, but strictly her own defined material, and likely improvised as she moves along. As he gets older and matures, I think she might do some more things by herself ... and I think these are the things that will make her even more special!
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Posted: April 06 2025 at 10:52 |
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^You can hear Hiromi by herself on the following albums: "Place to Be" with eight original songs and "Spectrum" with seven original songs.
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Posted: April 06 2025 at 14:48 |
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Hi, Thanks ... going after them |
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Posted: April 08 2025 at 22:57 |
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I have listened to it a couple of times. I enjoy the warm production and the bass and drums are very nice. She is obviously very good ( might be an understatement) but I don't necessarily think it's that ground breaking but it is fun and quirky and different. That's presumably more than enough to stand out nowadays.
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Posted: Yesterday at 05:08 |
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^Thanks for listening and reporting back.
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Hi, I don't know. Attitude might be something that we do not know how to discuss when it comes to rock music. And a lot of it, is taken to be good, or important, but somehow, we seem to like the stuff that comes off as serious, and not something/someone like Hiromi, that we can't exactly determine, and end up thinking that it is just a show, and I am not sure that it is ... if you close your eyes, and just listen for a while, the ability kinda takes off really fast, and enters an area that we are not always ... hip to. Witness John McLaughlin and how many folks, even in the early days, did not exactly like his going off to the stratosfear and us just sitting there wondering what that was all about ... but we did not do that to Steve Howe when he went bananas on Relayer! That would be a double standard in my book. The best I have seen of Hiromi, is the stuff that she did with that Harp player, which was insane, and far out ... though I can appreciate her rendition of various known pieces, it is the original and out there stuff that stands out for me. As an example, her stuff with Chick and Stanley, ends up not being very good comparatively speaking, as it seems that she had to play down for them ... which I think took some of the enthusiasm from the music. And that might be the thing ... enthusiasm! And how many rock bands are just mailing it in ... instead, which is one of the reasons why I prefer new material than the rehashes of older bands, many of which are simply repeating what they have done before, which is not saying they are not good, but it is saying that it does not appear that the band improved since then ... and this is visible in a couple of recent examples ... still good, but not special as far as we would expect. Having seen a lot of classical music folks and concerts, the one thing that they all missed since I started seeing those in the late 1960's, was the enthusiasm ... and even Andres Segovia was interesting, though a string breaking in the middle of a piece and he not missing a single note or chord (how's that for adjustments!!!!), and then at the end asking the audience if it sounded alright! He even smiled during the applause he got ... probably an unbelievable moment in his playing career. But, in general, they ALL lacked the enthusiasm and all of them was about "the note" or "the chord", as it felt like all of these were doing a final for all the professors in the audience. Kinda sick in my book! It lowered the quality of the music for me ... and the same thing was with the English professors seeing a Shakespeare performance by the Theater folks and then complaining about the Iambic Pentameter not being used! I wonder how much we lost in the translation of performance, since we obviously have seen a lot of rock music, and very little anything else? Now imagine Sir Ian McKellen doing Richard III in the end atop a Jeep in his Nazi outfit! At least it was insane and crazy, but a heck of an image ... and you have to have the courage and enthusiasm to pull it off, and he did!
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Posted: Yesterday at 12:11 |
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I've been wanting to Hiromi deep dive for some time. Thanks for reminding me.
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Hi, A little ... personal thought here! There is a side to the playing by Hiromi, that I think throws a lot of people off. I wonder if the music is thought of in two very distinct styles ... serious, and not serious ... and a lot of jazz and classical music seem to make a point that it is very serious and important, or valuable, because of all its music abilities (more or less), where as rock music, even jazz music, is usually taken as if it was just pop music, and that it did not mean a whole lot in the end, since it was just pop music, and not exactly musically inclined in its design and completeness, though you and I know that what became "progressive" music, was a huge attempt at elevating the music away from pop music ... which I believe that 60 years years later has gone back to a more commercial side of things, which is not something that the majority of classical music did not tend to show or specify ... you didn't go see this or that because it was famous, or had a hit song, let's say. Hiromi, does some things while playing that are very neat, but there is no doubt that she is into it, and her expression flows through it. I find it neat, and far out ... with a silly notion here ... it is as if she is naked with the music, and we look at it as ... very crazy, and not something that should be enjoyed ... a very ______ point of view in my weird book! I wonder, and never really asked, how many folks find it weird, or strange. I don't ... I find it an expression that is missing in a lot of music and seeing it here is far out, and I think there are similarities to some artists out there ... Peter Hammill is a good example, and some of it being so "personal" makes it very hard for a lot of us to get into. I think the same goes for Miles Davis, when we hear yet another show where he just does his own thing for 15 to 20 minutes, and we wonder where/how it all fits, but somehow, it does ... or we have decided to make room for it to "fit" ... not sure which! Again, for me, this is a very personal expression that is really special ... and something that you really want to see once in your life ... you don't get a Nureyev, or Misha or a Pavarotti many times during a lifetime, and missing that special touch is something that really helps you and I define what it is about the whole of the music involved. I took a friend of mine to see KC in Seattle with the three drummers. He was familiar with a song or two, but never connected it. When we are leaving the show he was amazed and the first thing he said was ... this was going to give him a new meaning to what music was all about ...until then it was favorites (many of them very good!!!), but all of a sudden, this was probably more classical minded than what he was used to. I kinda think that Hiromi, fits into an area that is very different, and it is about "expression" ... not just the music, which adds something to it, that we had not seen before in a well known piece. (which is why I wanted to hear her own personal albums ... to see how she really saw her own material ... instead of someone else's. I would hope it would be just as strong, and neat ... but at this point, being "personal" might not be as attractive as an interpretation of something that we know.)
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