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    Posted: February 20 2025 at 09:17

Disregarding how much these two genres have in common, they seem at least both not to be very popular internationally, albeit one of the artists certainly is. Therefore, I've been thinking that it's best to make one thread for both of them, and my favourite albums are (in chronological order):

Andalusian Rock

Carmen (UK/USA)  -  Fandangos in Space   (1973)

Triana  (ESP)  -  Triana  (El Patio)   (1975)

Iman, Califato Independiente  (ESP)  -  s/t  (1978)

Cai  (ESP)  -  Mas Alla De Nuestras Mentes Diminutas  (1979)


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Santana  (USA)  -  Abraxas     (1970)

Santana  -  Santana  (III)  (1971)

Malo  (USA)   -  s/t   (1972) (not on PA)


It could also be interesting to look at what else they have in common.
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Latin rock!

Café (USA, 1974) Si Dame Tu Amor





Siempre Mas y Mas 



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Triana might be my fave of all, their first album.  And one would think that the Gipsy Kings' first couple of albums owe a lot to Triana.  I have not explored Triana's later albums.

The one hit by Malo is wonderful

Other favorites include (artist-album), many of whom are not specifically Andalusian

Medina Azahara - en el Hakim
Asturcon - Asturcon (celtic inspired)
Celtas Cortos - a bit of celtic, a bit of ska, a lot of wonderful
Harnakis - more like Yes than andalusian
Mago de Oz - folk metal!
Sangre de Muerdago - beautiful neo folk
Snowdonia - mellow
Malabriega - currently being evaluated for prog folk and definitely VERY Triana influenced

With many of the classic Andalusian groups, I like songs here or there but I wouldn't say I'm a fan - Cai, Crack, Granada, and then some other non Adalusian groups that are in that category for me - Amarok, Ibio, Gotic

I am not including any of the Basque bands as that is really quite a different beast
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I love the first two Triana albums.
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Andalusian Rock emerged in early 1970s, but didn't really evolved into a genre until the mid-'70s, and pioneered not least by Triana. Basically, it's a fusion of Progressive Rock and Flamenco music, so it can be roughly understood as Flamenco Prog. However, it doesn't look to me like all the albums of the genre can be considered as Prog.






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The defining aspect of Latin Rock, as I see it, is fusion with elements of traditional Latin American music and especially Afro-Latin genres. The term emerged after release of Santana's debut album, and Santana is definitely also the internationally most well-known artist of the genre. However, there's been some significant Latin Rock bands more or less all over Latin America, while the term itself has been used rather differently over the years.
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I was much in doubt, but I reckon now that it was best to start this thread in General Music Discussions.
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I never heard of Malo. There was another one called Chango. I don't think they are on P.A. either though.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Disregarding how much these two genres have in common
They have nothing in common, except maybe for the fact that both genres are to some extent influenced by traditional music that's typically sung in Spanish.
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Phil Manzanera / Sonia Bernardo
Latin Rock.
https://youtu.be/gnFvTrcogOghttps://youtu.be/gnFvTrcogOg
https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/sleepers-2024
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


<span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">The defining aspect of Latin Rock, as I see it, is fusion with elements of traditional Latin American music and especially Afro-Latin genres. The term emerged after release of Santana's debut album, and Santana is definitely also the internationally most well-known artist of the genre. However, there's been some significant Latin Rock bands more or less all over Latin America, while the term itself has been used rather differently over the years.</span>


I really wish there was some Santana songs with lyrics in spanish. Or at least a bit more than he did, and specially something that could be considered among his best songs.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I never heard of Malo. There was another one called Chango. I don't think they are on P.A. either though.

Malo had a big hit in 1972 with "Suavecito".  I think one of the members is a brother of Carlos Santana
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

]Malo had a big hit in 1972 with "Suavecito".  I think one of the members is a brother of Carlos Santana


Carlos' late brother, Jorge (1951-2020), was the guitarist. Malo's conguero (percussionist) Raul Rekow (1954-2015) also left to join Santana.
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Yaqui was an obscure Los Angeles-based group from the early 1970s that fused hard rock with Afro-Cuban and Latin rhythms such as mambo, salsa, and cha-cha-chá. They dropped their sole album in 1973.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I never heard of Malo. There was another one called Chango. I don't think they are on P.A. either though.

not for lack of tryingCry, but some have systematically blocked Chango on more than two occasionsOuch

Of course they were never as prog as Caravanserai, Illuminations, Swing Of Delight, etc....

But, the average progginess of the two Chango albums is proggier than the average Santana discography Stern Smile
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

]Malo had a big hit in 1972 with "Suavecito".  I think one of the members is a brother of Carlos Santana

Carlos' late brother, Jorge (1951-2020), was the guitarist. Malo's conguero (percussionist) Raul Rekow (1954-2015) also left to join Santana.

Nice to know about Jorge Santana - I've wondered.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Of course they were never as prog as Caravanserai, Illuminations, Swing Of Delight, etc....

But, the average progginess of the two Chango albums is proggier than the average Santana discography Stern Smile


If they released only two albums, that's a contradiction, don't you think? Chango's second album was a lot more "rock," too. Don't forget Welcome.
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