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    Posted: February 13 2025 at 06:57
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

The Stones were always more about songs than albums IMHO, which is why I own "Best Of" comps (instead of "Greatest Hits)"

One, I've found particularly good, is The Very Best of The Rolling Stones 1964-71 (Abkco 2011), but also considering that I own the albums Their Satanic Majesties Request and Sticky Fingers.

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Bands like The Zombies and The Hollies had a unique style of their own...but several British Invasion bands were proliferate product.
I think The Zombies had the greatest potential and were in a league of their own (among the the bands that never really got huge). If the record company had faith in them, I'm certain we would have had at least a couple of classic albums more from them to enjoy. Their sophisticated, sometimes jazzy arrangements were as inventive and original as The Beatles.

I love The Hollies, but I love The Monkees too. And like The Monkees I don't think any of their biggest hits were crated by the band themselves. There's a huge differnce between having both written and recorded She's Not There and Time of the Season (or the whole Odessey & Oracle album) - compared to having Graham Goulding handing you Bus Stop and Look Through Any Window.

-I don't mean to be overtly negative to The Hollies. I just think that talent-or "stylewise, they don't belong in the same ballpark as The Zombies.
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When the Beatles landed at JFK airport I was age 8. You could say because I was a kid during Beatlemania that it just felt magnified ...however...I recall most kids in school buying Beatles records. The Lennon/McCartney song writing team proved to be a huge selling point for the industry. Many British Invasion bands had similarities to the Beatles sound/style.

The Rolling Stones and The Kinks did not sound like each other nor did they outright imitate the Beatles...EXCEPT..for a few songs here and there both bands presented their individuality and not so much a Beatles copy. "19th Nervous Breakdown" was strange lyrically in 65' and that influenced people to be curious over its lyrical content.

British Invasion was perpetuated with the hair style and teeny bop songs. Herman's Hermits, Gerry & The Pacemakers, Freddie And The Dreamers, The Dave Clark Five, were all Beatles imitation in some way...though DC5 differed because of the saxophone technically they were writing songs with a Beatles-esque vibe such as "Because", "Catch Us If You Can" "Can't You See That She's Mine".." Over And Over"

Bands like The Zombies and The Hollies had a unique style of their own...but several British Invasion bands were proliferate product.


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The Stones have been with me for the whole of my six decades on the planet.  The shelf is groaning with the Stones collection and I recommend 'em all, but if I needed a Stones fix right now, I'd go to the B side of Goat's Head Soup. 

And don't count out the early albums.....really any of 'em are a gas.  Gritty, rootsy, dirty blues - Brian was a motherhumper (before the Glimmer Twins nudged him out).  
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I'm afraid there is not much "to get" about The Stones

Straight ahead rock band... 
I'd say that Their Satanic Majesties Request is very psychedelic and quite experimental for 1967 being. Neither do I think of Sticky Fingers as just straight ahead Rock. - That's the two albums I'm most familiar with. Tongue
I see where you're going, but Satanic feels forced, IMHO. They thought they had top answer Sgt Pepper, but it's not "THEM".

As for SF, there is a fair bit of country rock in there, but it's still mainstream rock

I think that a good characterization of Sticky Fingers will be as "brilliant and very honest Roots Rock". Wink


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I like them, but i prefer their psychedelic period (200,000 light years from home)
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^ There's a quality touch there, put by Mick Taylor and Ry Cooder, that I really like.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I'm afraid there is not much "to get" about The Stones

Straight ahead rock band... 

I'd say that Their Satanic Majesties Request is very psychedelic and quite experimental for 1967 being. Neither do I think of Sticky Fingers as just straight ahead Rock. - That's the two albums I'm most familiar with. Tongue


I see where you're going, but Satanic feels forced, IMHO. They thought they had top answer Sgt Pepper, but it's not "THEM".

As for SF, there is a fair bit of country rock in there, but it's still mainstream rock
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If we take away the glitz and glamour surrounding them, I would describe them as musically a pub-rock band of songs rather than an album band. So, my favourite 7-inch single by The Rolling Stones actually comes from the nowadays underrated, yet musically eclectic and great album Black and Blue.


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I prefer the Beatles but I really like the Stones. Let it Bleed, Beggars Banquet and Sticky Fingers are my favorite but I really enjoy Aftermath, Exile on Main Street and Their Satanic Majesties Request too. 
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Overplayed even on prog radio in the 70s, the Stones got on my nerves back then, especially certain songs that went on way too long like "You can't always get what you want" and "Gimme Shelter", but now I acknowledge they have some great songs, quite a few actually, and I would choose to hear Stones over Beatles in general.  More oomph.  I don't really know their albums though.  Some of my fave tracks are

Satisfaction
Baby Jane (is that right?)
Angie
Wild Horses
Miss You
Ruby Tuesday
Beast of Burden
Brown Sugar
Paint it Black


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I'm afraid there is not much "to get" about The Stones

Straight ahead rock band... 

I'd say that Their Satanic Majesties Request is very psychedelic and quite experimental for 1967 being. Neither do I think of Sticky Fingers as just straight ahead Rock. - That's the two albums I'm most familiar with. Tongue

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^Well said/written Jacob
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The Rolling Stones are a great band, but I'm not surprised that the Beatles receive more acclaim here.
Speaking for myself, I like most of the Beatles and some of the Stones.

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^ good point!
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I first heard The Rolling Stones in 1965. I began collecting their 45rpms until eventually buying the LP's.

They were DARK for the times! Not many bands had a doomsday look . The Rolling Stones were one of the first bands to do that which influenced quite a lot of American bands in the 60s to have a rough look ...Paul Revere & The Raiders, MC5, and others.

When I discovered the Stones there wasn't a Mick Jagger throwing buckets of water on the crowd ..or releasing

balloons...and running up and down the stage.

Mick Jagger in the early days danced behind a microphone stand and shook a tambourine.

Their album covers were DARK for the times. They appeared on the cover of December's Children sitting on steps or alleyway. They often wore dark jackets and looked disturbed or angered. They rarely smiled. They had a Punk vibe sometimes.

12 × 5 , Out Of Our Heads, Now!, Aftermath, and Between The Buttons presented them in a dark way. A much darker image than other bands of those times . Often dressed in black jackets standing off in the distance...or in the fog...or an alleyway..??

Would you let your daughter date a Rolling Stone? They offended the old school generation for sure. I recall seeing a Pic of the band pushing a baby carriage off a cliff ..I believe?? Which was dark for those times. A few times they dressed in drag. Probably around the time of "Stupid Girl" and American parents didn't handle that well.

Brian Jones played a variety of instruments which brought a unique sound to their music. "Paint It Black" , "Get Off My Cloud", "19th Nervous Breakdown" , Mother's Little Helper" were odd for the times. The lyrics and the music.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I love the Stones right up through Tattoo You, when they were still a relevant creative entity known as a real band. From the late 80s on, they are essentially a Vegas-style cover band of themselves, as many legacy acts get to be in their late years.

I would tend to agree but stop at Some Girls... and the only exception to later albums would be the much maligned Dirty Work, which I still own the vinyl.
FTM, I think I only own vinyls of theirs (no CD) and I mostly own compilations like Hot Rocks, Made in  The Shade, Sucking in the 70's. And two live albums: Yayas Out and LLL (El Mocambo was THE place to be in Toronto back then).


Sure. I even enjoyed UnderCover of the Night when it'd pop on the radio....but as an album the pickins' had gotten a bit thin.  Good to see you, Hugues. 
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Beyond Some Girls, and besides Dirty Work, Voodoo Lounge seems mostly enjoyable too.
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I love the Stones right up through Tattoo You, when they were still a relevant creative entity known as a real band. From the late 80s on, they are essentially a Vegas-style cover band of themselves, as many legacy acts get to be in their late years.

I would tend to agree but stop at Some Girls... and the only exception to later albums would be the much maligned Dirty Work, which I still own the vinyl.
FTM, I think I only own vinyls of theirs (no CD) and I mostly own compilations like Hot Rocks, Made in  The Shade, Sucking in the 70's. And two live albums: Yayas Out and LLL (El Mocambo was THE place to be in Toronto back then).



Getting The Rolling Stones?


I'm afraid there is not much "to get" about The Stones

Straight ahead rock band... 

The Stones were always more about songs than albums IMHO, which is why I own "Best Of" comps (instead of "Greatest Hits)"

If I were to names a few albums, I'd say Let It Bleed, Goats Head and Some Girls
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Hot Rocks & Live Licks - The Complete Rolling Stones

3 stars 1964: The Rolling Stones - The Rolling Stones - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL22yevoIBQSGzsiUrlhqOZBCqbBJshV3T
3 stars 1964: The Rolling Stones - Around and Around - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL44kuYYS8yk1Qdwch8mkFrCBfdFXd9GW
3 stars 1965: The Rolling Stones - The Rolling Stones No. 2 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL44kuYYS8ynqoHlprGsislw-WujCKyEz
3 stars 1965: The Rolling Stones - The Rolling Stones, Now! - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXRKTcRs-Xs69GJayI9lLvjYmsLKV5yz9
3 stars 1965: The Rolling Stones - December's Children - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_muKHAAldJ6j9LnJMGryCjVvz8CUMdY3HA
4 stars 1966: The Rolling Stones - Big Hits (High Tide & Green Grass) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4cFJtUcmjZnV_k-kU4bIZTSVV10VadSp
2 stars 1966: The Rolling Stones - Got LIVE If You Want It! - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL44kuYYS8ykckzkMPeZahnyR9OsqL03v
3 stars 1967: The Rolling Stones - Between the Buttons - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ntiTN-zbDblOg838P03r6ZsTDj20BIILY
4 stars 1967: The Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Request - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL44kuYYS8yknyo6BY5kp75ew_gB9DtEZ
4 stars 1968: The Rolling Stones - Beggars Banquet - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL44kuYYS8ykv-P4z3wcR0xHokCmlik4E
5 stars 1968: The Rolling Stones - Rock & Roll Circus - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKEOCWQDKovctKOmf25SYuykiI6MUv83r
5 stars 1969: The Rolling Stones - Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k5ulgAKND77c772Ow6nk_EBZ7XYCWauXI
3 stars 1969: The Rolling Stones - Live in Hyde Park - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SueSkCkbC8
3 stars 1969: The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter: Live at Altamont - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmuSoVgR7eI
4 stars 1970: The Rolling Stones - Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out! - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLglUu7rOaMDvLniIzKSkkPnQgRaiUj5p_
4 stars 1971: The Rolling Stones - Live at the Marquee Club - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCaPoQGz2glEZ6EYJEQPVArf3oVCKf-vK
5 stars 1971: The Rolling Stones - Hot Rocks 1964-1971 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nFDkP8BrQzFR3p0-l5Ap9vA_Tpfb5nA64
4 stars 1972: The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mlSgwMnHtgteaiw5pjyjZFc6T2Y8BX7bw
4 stars 1973: The Rolling Stones - No Stone Unturned - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS2wkin_jnAz1Uqb8triDpGXJtrA38Ci-
4 stars 1973: The Rolling Stones - Brussels Affair - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIEx7PjdcpR6d7aTJf9w73lkSph2XU6jU
4 stars 1974: The Rolling Stones - It's Only Rock 'n' Roll - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ltLtLCgiTDhX7RD122i9o5TYwUEFyWR6A
4 stars 1975: The Rolling Stones - Live at the L.A. Forum - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoWY-cJip2gXnVUFPQ0p17vsDpX-JK_FS
3 stars 1976: The Rolling Stones - Live in Paris - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuApOTTcin8
4 stars 1978: The Rolling Stones - Some Girls: Live in Texas '78 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mKe7R41rUv-O4rM0zvrGPlyySXmNIao9c
4 stars 1982: The Rolling Stones - Still Life: Live in the USA - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBn2q9tiVc2Sci4vnK3MHjDfn-4mNj4Ry
5 stars 1991: The Rolling Stones - Flashpoint: Live at Tokyo Dome - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQkGMMawQEZe34JVt2qOFqHuDPQoi_4uT
4 stars 1998: The Rolling Stones - Bridges to Bremen Tour - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nNgYL8KTrYASj7oCNQL-DTWYTCINMpofA
5 stars 2003: The Rolling Stones - Live Licks: Madison Square Garden - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCWR7cftUj6QpTAzoKdH71yERBi6rP7mS
4 stars 2006: The Rolling Stones - The Biggest Bang: Austin, Texas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boeEcc6hirk
4 stars 2008: The Rolling Stones - Shine a Light: Beacon Theatre, NYC - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnD-O555sSU5iVaBAZRhdroBVCsPIrCYz
5 stars 2013: The Rolling Stones - Sweet Summer Sun: Hyde Park Live - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLd_mHsJj_0YZMS81OSzJr0hQStq8IwXbV
5 stars 2013: The Rolling Stones - Live at Glastonbury - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7BXxFc9IG0
4 stars 2015: The Rolling Stones - Live at the Fonda Theatre, Los Angeles - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz-X5DH1w8tDONEoDO-datUkwS6lJyqjb
3 stars 2016: The Rolling Stones - Blue & Lonesome - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLneuOis5eCgYKuKdIj1LxbDf0lYByG-Py


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