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GuruCan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 24 2024 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 1482 |
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Haken's lyrics occasionally address societal challenges, particularly in albums like 'Vector.' |
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Snikle ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 27 2022 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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I think Every Bloody Emperor can be added to the VDGG section.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15566 |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15566 |
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Vector looks to me to be a socially-engaged concept album, alright, but also to be a Metal album. |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15566 |
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I still think that John J. Sheinbaum, as being a musicologist, has very good qualifications for a reasonnable interpretation, and which has been published as a scientific article - but of course, he doesn't have to be right. |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 45698 |
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So because it's a progressive metal album, it does not count, or lacks credibility, or what?! ![]() There are a ton of metal bands that tackle social issues, corruption and politics. But i guess, no credibility because... metal...
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15566 |
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^ As the thread title says, this thread is about "major Progressive Rock", and that is meant stricktly defined. And btw, in your opinion, Metal is something different than Rock, isn't that correct?
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 45698 |
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Not what you said. You are saying progressive metal does not belong in the discussion, a very dismissive statement, for a prog subgenre that has been around since the 80s.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43499 |
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Some socially-engaged major Progressive Metal, courtesy of Porcupine Tree. ![]() |
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GuruCan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 24 2024 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 1482 |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15566 |
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That's definitely socially-engaged major album, which I also will consider as Progressive Rock. And here's what Wikipedia writes about Fear of a Blank Planet : "The lyrics of the album deal with some common behaviour tendencies concerning society, especially youth, in the beginning of the 21st century, such as bipolar disorder, attention deficit disorder, drug abuse, alienation,[36] and deprivation caused by mass media.[37] The concept of the album was inspired by Bret Easton Ellis novel Lunar Park[38] and the title alludes to Public Enemy's album, Fear of a Black Planet, both sharing the particularity of reflecting notorious conflicts affecting society in the world at some time. Wilson notes that whilst race relationship was the main issue among young people when Public Enemy's album was released, it was replaced in the 21st century by a general superficiality, boredom, and introversion.[39] The album features contributions from Rush's Alex Lifeson and King Crimson's Robert Fripp. Wilson: "My fear is that the current generation of kids who're being born into this information revolution, growing up with the Internet, cell phones, iPods, this download culture, 'American Idol,' reality TV, prescription drugs, PlayStations—all of these things kind of distract people from what's important about life, which is to develop a sense of curiosity about what's out there."" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree#Fear_of_a_Blank_Planet )
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 43499 |
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But the Internet, PlayStation and the information revolution ARE what's important in life - at least to me anyhow.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15566 |
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Well, I've edited my OP, so it explicitly tells now that this thread is about stricktly defined Progressive Rock. |
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GuruCan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 24 2024 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 1482 |
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For PA, Progressive Rock is more of a vibe—essentially, Progressive Rock, the term, equals *Prog* here; that's how your title could be read—"socially engaged major Prog bands." So, it would've been good to highlight in your initial post that "socially engaged major bands" from PA's Progressive Metal section aren't allowed but only the bands from other PA categories like Symphonic Prog, Neo Prog, Eclectic Prog, Heavy Prog, Canterbury Scene, Rock Progressivo Italiano, RIO/Avant-Prog, and so forth. Since you didn't do it that way, to my previous Heavy Prog (Haken) suggestion, I'm free to add this one, Progressive Metal suggestion: |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15566 |
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King Crimson - "Fallen Angel", Red (1974), about gang violence
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Nothing that Genesis hadn't (funnily) sung about the previous year in Epping Forest.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15566 |
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KC's story is on a one person level and existentiel, and as such, probably more touching and convincing personally.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15566 |
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King Crimson - "Easy Money", Larks' Tongues in Aspic (1973) can be seen as a cutting commentary on the materialistic pursuit of wealth and status, and the superficial values of modern society Edited by David_D - December 07 2024 at 08:06 |
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The excellent epic song "The Winning Game" by The Tangent
challenges listeners to think about societal difficulties and
success-related aspirations. |
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