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Poll Question: Which band do you prefer?
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ELP indeed
early ELO works were OK before an abysmal fall into syrupy easy listening stuff
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I love both bands, but ELP were the most consistent at producing quality albums - well at least until BSS.

As for ELO the only albums of theirs that hit the sweet spot for me are the debut, ELO2, and A New World Record. Everything else I find a bit hit and miss - and I mostly lost interest after 'Discovery' when they ditched their distinctive cello/violin accompaniments.

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Neither are my favourites but I listen to ELO occasionally still, while it's been years sincee I wanted to listen to anything ELP.
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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

5 minutes of Tarkus encapsulates more 'music' and sound than everything ELO combined

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ELP, had some easy, fun things, but, in general they were more towards the composing side of music and its interpretation than it was about a pop song.

Not to take anything away from ELO, but in terms of music ability and design, they are "simplistic" as opposed to a lot of the materials that ELP did, which GL even stated that they were not easy stuff to play and often required a very hard level of concentration to do it right on stage. 

But there was one person in ELO that I think was excellent, and he was thrown out of the band, unless he left them ... Roy Wood ... by the time you put on "Eddie and the Falcons" and "Mustard" you will find not quite a madman but someone that is trying to express things musically in a very enthusiastic way that was not exactly a pop song, even if it was satirical in many ways ... and even Annie Haslam has stated many times that the guy was an amazing musician ... sadly for all the folks here, probably totally forgotten ... because ELO is more famous and gets all the accolades in the media ... after all they made millions for a few record companies ... and that is all they were .. a cash cow! Only thing missing is that one album cover with the poop coming out looking like gold!
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ELO was in my Top 5 bands 20 years ago, but I find myself listening to ELP more nowadays, and hardly listen to ELO.
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I'm not the biggest fan of ELP but they have some great material and I have a lot of respect for their originality and ability. On the other hand I don't remember any single moment in my life in which I wanted to listen to an ELO track, sorry.  

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I understand Richard, and I hope you found my response acceptable, reasonable and reasonably warm: CLICK . It was heartfelt. I have very much appreciated your friendliness and our conversations at the forum and would hate to be factor in you considering leaving. I do think our musical passions can get overblown and become more important than other things maybe should be in our social interactions. I care more about, for instance, if I can laugh with someone than if they like and recognise Magma. Heck, we can laugh about Magma..

I, of course am way more into the Krautrock, RIO, Post-Rock, Pysch and Folk sides of PA. Just doing 11 by Yes and Genesis was tough, but I have not heard anywhere near 11 ELP albums so would not have wanted to put them in the rankings. Sorry for referring to it above, not thinking well today and had even forgotten writing that. It's not the first time that thing has happened with ELP, and I don't remember who it was before. I have seen some vitriol from various people into bands that goes way beyond your feeling a little pissed on a very bad day. I really am glad you decided against leaving PA at the time.

Thanks Thumbs Up. I was being a bit of a 'prat' , it was just unfortunate timing when I was not feeling my best. I've thought of leaving PA many times over the years but always end up sticking around. I enjoy the banter and learning about some new prog acts which I could never find any other way. You are one of the best and most thoughtful posters for sure and I appreciate it. On a side line I have made peace with my decision to leave my job, it was causing anxiety that I made it so abruptly, but it was for the best and I've not had any second thoughts. 
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

5 minutes of Tarkus encapsulates more 'music' and sound than everything ELO combined

Hi,

ELP, had some easy, fun things, but, in general they were more towards the composing side of music and its interpretation than it was about a pop song.

Not to take anything away from ELO, but in terms of music ability and design, they are "simplistic" as opposed to a lot of the materials that ELP did, which GL even stated that they were not easy stuff to play and often required a very hard level of concentration to do it right on stage. 

But there was one person in ELO that I think was excellent, and he was thrown out of the band, unless he left them ... Roy Wood ... by the time you put on "Eddie and the Falcons" and "Mustard" you will find not quite a madman but someone that is trying to express things musically in a very enthusiastic way that was not exactly a pop song, even if it was satirical in many ways ... and even Annie Haslam has stated many times that the guy was an amazing musician ... sadly for all the folks here, probably totally forgotten ... because ELO is more famous and gets all the accolades in the media ... after all they made millions for a few record companies ... and that is all they were .. a cash cow! Only thing missing is that one album cover with the poop coming out looking like gold!

Roy Wood is generally very famous in the UK for just one thing and it's that time of the year again!

Roy is much respected by those in the know but sadly will be mainly remembered for a cheesy seasonal song.

I am surprised that their early albums are not given more creedence. From The Sun To The World on ELO2 is wonderful and I like a lot of what is on those albums, no doubt Wood being a main driver. The later commercial stuff even up to Discovery still has musical merit in my opionion. Mr Blue Sky is part of a side long suite on Out Of The Blue and no one mentions that. I think they were at least as good as 10CC as a 'radio band' and Jeff Lynne was a clever creative guy. I wouldn't dismiss them. Maybe not that 'progressive' but still could play and they came from the same Birmingham (UK) rock scene that gave us the likes of Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and a few others.
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