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^ I believe that the technical term for the rates-way-too-much syndrome is hyperübermuchoratealotism in short.
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^ that works. The irony is that English is stupid sometimes. To overdo something is too do something too much. To overexercise is to exercise to much THEN a improper definition like overrate DOESN'T mean to rate too much but to rate too highly. Seems we need another prefix. German and Russian do a somewhat better job at this sorta thing ;)

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Anything by King Crimson after In the Court. Better frase it will be anything by Robert Fripp after In the Court. I don't find his music compelling at all.
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Originally posted by ThyroidGlands ThyroidGlands wrote:

Well, that's everything. The idea for this post came to me from this thread: https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=132123

I'll start with Moonmadness and Mirage, albums currently ranked at #15 and #16.


I never thought I would see the day when I genuinely thought the snow goose could legitimately be considered an underrated album but I certainly feel that way these days. Wow. Yes, some parts are mellow but that's Camel. Get over it.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I think the word "overrated" means that the album has been rated too much. So you're basically saying that too many people have rated an album. Illogical. Albums that are influential always get the most attention. It does seem true that many will rate an album highly simply because so many others have done so and want to be a part of the "club" rather than subjectively comprehend WHY they dislike an album.





We are social animals so wanting to be part of a group is not that strange. Subjectively I really dislike Larks Tongues In Aspic. To me it's a mess and very very boring. I don't like the production or the ideas except for Easy Money and even that sounded better when John Wetton did solo versions on his many 90's and 00's tours. However it is unique and experimental in many ways that I just don't understand even if subjectively it still remains something I don't want to listen to. So I'll give it it's due and didn't list it. Camel on then other hand are much nicer to listen to but literally added nothing in terms of new ideas to progressive music except for maybe The Snow Goose. If they hadn't have done that then I would struggle to take them seriously at all!
 


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I think the word "overrated" means that the album has been rated too much. So you're basically saying that too many people have rated an album. Illogical. Albums that are influential always get the most attention. It does seem true that many will rate an album highly simply because so many others have done so and want to be a part of the "club" rather than subjectively comprehend WHY they dislike an album.


We are social animals so wanting to be part of a group is not that strange. Subjectively I really dislike Larks Tongues In Aspic. 

Well, then, I guess you and I belong to different groups!  LOL
I think LTIA is one of the best albums ever recorded in rock history.  

I was in a record store in Riverside, IL with my friend Wayne, where we saw Bob play Frippertronics on his "Drive to 1981" mini tour.   We showed Bob a Super 8 college student film titled "Fripp" that  we had made using LTIA Part 2 as the soundtrack, so I got to see his reaction to his own music.  

Bob rocked back and forth on the balls of his feet in time with the music, and was very intently involved with it (until the violent and bloody climax of the film, at which point he stopped rocking and stood in utter silence!).   This was 18 June, 1979.  

That's what I enjoy about this site....the diversity and creative tension of members.  Well said, Richard! 


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I think the word
"overrated" means that the album has been rated too much.
But
that's objectically wrong. Go check any dictionary.


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ that works. The irony is that English is stupid sometimes. To overdo something is too do something too much. To overexercise is to exercise to much THEN a improper definition like overrate DOESN'T mean to rate too much but to rate too highly. Seems we need another prefix. German and Russian do a somewhat better job at this sorta thing ;)

German has the same problem, the corresponding word "überbewertet" does not indicate whether it's about quantity or level. I guess in most languages it's mostly about level and then also about quantity (an overrated item has too many high ratings). Smile


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Originally posted by fredyair fredyair wrote:

Anything by King Crimson after In the Court. Better phrase it will be anything by Robert Fripp after In the Court. I don't find his music compelling at all.

I feel the same way too. Thumbs Up

My Top Seven Most "Uberbewertet" Artists on Prog Archives. Wink (in alphabetical order)

Robert Fripp 
Gentle Giant 
Peter Hammill
King Crimson 
Van der Graaf Generator
Robert Wyatt 
Frank Zappa


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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

We are social animals so wanting to be part of a group is not that strange. Subjectively I really dislike Larks Tongues In Aspic. 

Well, then, I guess you and I belong to different groups!  LOL
I think LTIA is one of the best albums ever recorded in rock history. 

Agreed. In my opinion, LTIA is one of the greatest albums in history.  

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

That's what I enjoy about this site....the diversity and creative tension of members.  Well said, Richard! 

Agreed.
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For example, I feel that everything PT and Wilson did is highly overrated. Honestly, I tried many times to listen to their music, and it doesn’t appeal to me at all.
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