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^^^
As long as it isn't Greenland bashing LOL

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ well that may be the case but Oingo Boingo and a gazillion other artists shouldn't be here at all
As much as i love Steely Dan, Oingo Boingo, Sparks etc, i would purge them in a hearbeat from a prog site if i could :) 

we all male mistakes and indeed SD doesn't belong IMHO
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Sorry i'm just not convinced. Why don't you consider them at prog folk since they are primarily a folk band? 

That's what I was getting at in my previous post Wink




Edited by Sean Trane - November 11 2024 at 07:14
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I dunno. There are so many REAL prog bands that still aren't on this site. Why do we care about bands like Sume? If they weren't from Greenland nobody would even consider them. Sounds like you all just want a band from Greenland so bad you're willing to compromise progginess for novelty.

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Quote Sounds like you all just want a band from Greenland so bad you're willing to compromise progginess for novelty.
Duh. I mean, I pretty much said that in my first post in this thread. xD
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I dunno. There are so many REAL prog bands that still aren't on this site. Why do we care about bands like Sume? If they weren't from Greenland nobody would even consider them. Sounds like you all just want a band from Greenland so bad you're willing to compromise progginess for novelty.



I'm willing to put Sume under Denmark (just like a Faroë band would be), so that's not my driving force.
RYM lists them as Danish.


Nope, when I hear their later 70'smusic, I hear the typical early 70's soundscapes. 
I'd even say that I hear something of Culpeper Orchard or BRI or Midnight Sun.  
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^ 70s soundscapes don’t mean progressive

Sume is definitely psychedelic but that is not synonymous with progressive either

I’d say advocate for prog related if you’re set on getting them added

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BTW Culpepper Orchard’s first album is definitely progressive with time signature deviations but their following albums are pretty much pure folk so if it wasn’t for their debut wouldn’t be here either

Even Sume’s so-called most progressive album isn’t progressive at all

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I guess TYR would prefer to be listed as Far Oer instead of Denmark
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I think the reason some PA Collaborators want to list Sumé as Danish band as opposed to a Greenlandic one might as well be simply not to perpetuate the 'novelty factor'.
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^ we're not so strict here. Even though Nektar never lived in England they are still listed as UK band here.

If they do get added i'm ok with Greenland because that's where they spent their days as a band

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ we're not so strict here. Even though Nektar never lived in England they are still listed as UK band here.

That can be edited, give us the correct information. Smile
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^ Nektar was a bunch of English ex-pats who left the UK and moved to Germany where they formed and remained

I've suggested changing their nationality to Germany and surprisingly received pushback

Although i still think they should be listed under Germany it's not worth the time to pursue really

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 I am voting No for Sume.  Just hard pop rock with some folk, psych and prog influences.  Not to say I don't like it.  Both the first and 3rd album which I listened to are good quality rock, but, like many in that time period, their association to prog was circumstantial.  I suspect if they sang in English fewer people would consider it prog.  

Re prog related, I think that's not appropriate.  By my understanding, that's more for artists from back in the day with more widespread critical or commercial success who had an influence on prog or were prog adjacent.  For example, Shawn Phillips was added in the last few years.  It could also be applied to the solo works of artists from prog bands who kept some of that prog thing going.  I don't see Sume qualifying.
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