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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

Yeah, these were my first listens of both and I don't think I can craft a worthy opinion without a few more spins. Not really my style - reminded me of Porcupine Tree, but the production of Trace just propelled this one for me. Sorry Cristi Wink

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2024 at 08:35
While Cardiacs is quite the Marmite band, it has had its vocal appreciators at this forum. I love those albums and figured some others might be enthusiastic enough about them to want to respond ere very long. From my POV, if anyone wishes to jump in and skip my dynamic duo to answer the Jethro Tull question and then list their own two, I would be fine with that. Maybe some would like to answer mine later when/ if this topic stalls. That's up to the game-master (aka the OP), I guess. Sometimes these topics just don't get momentum when the forum is not busy and it might elicit more of the JFF crowd (and their numbers have diminished). Anyway, some might choose before long, but I just wanted to put this out there. While I would not want to be the one that leads to the death of this topic, worse, I would not wish to see those wondrous albums be the death of this topic.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2024 at 11:10
^^ oh, you've got enough Cardiacs fans in here to help you here Greg, although as you know, I'm afraid I'm not one of them.. I was surprised the Vangelis choice was taken up as quickly as it was, for which we have John to thank.

I think you chose correctly with TaaB; it's their masterpiece and after all... there's only so many times the Hare can lose his spectacles, isn't there?
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Yeah, I was hoping someone else (with a greater knowledge of Cardiacs) would jump the wagon there, but hey...nobody did. This topic stalls repeatedly, it's not just you Logan. I will not persuade the topic to gain traction just to skip your picks - I will let someone else answer it. 

JFF crowd?? What is that? 

Anyway, as Jared stated, indeed this supposedly is a quick paced game where your picks could get stolen (or picked), so it's up to you to be on the lookout, always. I sense it an obligation to frequent this thread as the OP, obviously. 

FWIW, I'm one of those who will pick Passion Play over Brick any day of the week. Grand Statement: yes indeed, but too repetitive in arrangement and fails to holdup after many listens for me. Sorry


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2024 at 14:08
^ JFF is "Just For Fun" in internet slang and I was referring to the people who frequent the Just for Fun forum at this board.

^^ And yeah, Jared, there are enough Cardiacs fans here, but not everyone is interested in such topics or posting as regularly as they once did even if they pop in now and then. One notices various posters who are logged in as active users but aren't posting (nor checking a wide variety of topics). That Vangelis one would have stumped me. I know his 70s albums and a fair amount of his post-70s albums. By the way, I don;t post at the forum, but I have noticed that Progressive Ears has a 188 page Cardiacs thread, with a few and especially one very active contributor. I wonder how the most prolific there would fare against the most prolific in the epic Flower Kings thread here at PA's forum in a battle royale? Just a silly thought for the day.
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Oh ok, that makes sense. I will let the mods move it if they deem necessary. It's still part of the main forum, right? As long as it stays in the feed, people will view it and thus reply.

Yeah, I assume the active user on PA will pick and choose what topics to frequent based on the people who make them and the content. I don't prefer PE for that same reason that some random "niche" thread will pop up and last for days on end - where are the listening and band/artist threads that can spark discussion? Instead, you get "this guy from this band (nobody cares about) releases another book". Seriously?!
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Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:

It's still part of the main forum, right? As long as it stays in the feed, people will view it and thus reply.
 
Posts in the "Just for Fun" subforum do NOT appear in the "Latest Forum Posts" list.
 

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^ Thanks Proph, noted Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2024 at 21:29
Cardiacs have 3 very high rated albums on PA but unfortunately the one with the flower on the cover is the one I don't know at all. Sing To God is really good and I would have picked that over On Land And In The Sea personally.
and as far at Tull goes I only really love Aqualung. People say TAAB is amazing but I always feel underwelmed by it. APP is more interesting imo.
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^ I think Logan will forgive you for picking Sing to God, Richard; personally, I only know that one by the band and I cannot imagine anything else by them "bettering" it.

Do you want to drop your next contenders?
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Cardiacs have 3 very high rated albums on PA but unfortunately the one with the flower on the cover is the one I don't know at all. Sing To God is really good and I would have picked that over On Land And In The Sea personally.
and as far at Tull goes I only really love Aqualung. People say TAAB is amazing but I always feel underwelmed by it. APP is more interesting imo.


I would be surprised if you did not prefer A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window over On Land and in the Sea. I chose that duo partially because they have similar ratings commonly, both came out sequentially at the end of the 80s (1988 and 1989) and I happen to love that line-up with Sarah Smith on sax and William D. Drake on keyboards (and vocals). I do really like Sing to God too which was my fist Cardiacs album, and it was "Dirty Boy" off it, such great, great song, imo, that first really turned me on to Cardiacs. On Land and in the Sea took some time for me to love (not as easy as various other Cardiacs albums for me, and I was already into most of its other albums before getting into it). Two others I really love and think essential are the compilation album Songs for Ships and Irons and the live All That Glitters Is a Mares Nest.

As for JT, I almost went with APP -- toss up. I prefer Aqualaung, as well as Stand Up and Benefit to it.


Originally posted by Zappastolethetowels Zappastolethetowels wrote:


^ I think Logan will forgive you for picking Sing to God, Richard; personally, I only know that one by the band and I cannot imagine anything else by them "bettering" it.

Do you want to drop your next contenders?


To me it's not about bettering. I see them as different. Differences in line-up, time... And as I said, I was fine with skipping it altogether. To me I see this as about the specific albums rather than the band, so it makes more sense for Richard's new suggestions to be based on the Jethro Tull albums rather than choosing an album that I did not mention. No forgiveness required; no big deal to me either way. As he chose APP, we can count my Cardiacs suggestions as unofficial (but at least good for a little conversation, and I care more about the conversation even if I haven't always the mind or time to engage in such things with any depth or intelligence). Thanks for the thoughtful posts.
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^For purposes of moving this topic along, I will continue from where we left off...

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^ Nursery Cryme

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^ Perfect Strangers. I love a lot of post seventies Deep Purple.

Has to be done Smile

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^In Absentia

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^You are in for one Grumpy....Thing Fish! Shocked

Some parts of Jazz are good, but just don't add up to the whole. I can stomach some synclavier: Civilization, Monkies, Dance.... cannot stomach this one however. To me, he hadn't found that sound on Prevention and Jazz yet. 

I like (don't love) Thing Fish! The sheer balls and cleverness to come up with something like this could have only come from Frank in the 80s. Too bad it never materialized on Broadway - the budget for this thing was high! It's the ultimate troll/turn off record for the novice, but I like it just for that reason Evil Smile
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^ One Size

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