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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Listened just twice on the radio: not bad but nothing special (just the first impression)

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I find it weird/strange that the single brings up everything that DT has been for a long time ... and not show us anything new ... which is sad ... I think their album will likely fall into the ... so what ... category, if it continues with the same thrashing and style, and horrible mixes with little keyboards and very little bass ... such a typical metal setup ... aren't we tired of that yet?

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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Listened just twice on the radio: not bad but nothing special (just the first impression)

Hi,

I find it weird/strange that the single brings up everything that DT has been for a long time ... and not show us anything new ... which is sad ... I think their album will likely fall into the ... so what ... category, if it continues with the same thrashing and style, and horrible mixes with little keyboards and very little bass ... such a typical metal setup ... aren't we tired of that yet?
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Listened just twice on the radio: not bad but nothing special (just the first impression)
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Haven't really liked anything they've done in the past 20 years, but I thought this was pretty good. 
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Have listened a few more times and I still like it. Most Prog-metal is pretty formulaic in the playing and writing, but this is Dream Theater, whereas most others have been following them.
Regardless, it hit me in some good spots and glad to see Portnoy back at it, maybe another 5-8 yrs and it will be it, 3-4 more albums.
I'd LOVE to see Kevin Moore return, the one thing that the past 20yrs has been a grind on me is Jordan's playing, w**king on the keys/theramin trying to be a lead instrument. A little bit is ok but endless soloing is like OMG enough!!! LOL
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I like it too, reminds me of the last album featuring MP (Black Clouds And Silver Linings), which was a belter.I’ll be happy if it’s anywhere near as good as that….
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I like it. Sounds like Dream Theater to me!!!
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Have listened to it about 10 times by now. I'm sort of underwhelmed, yet I cannot rate it any less than 8/10. They're just too good at what they do - they disappoint on a very high level. 

Got to say Mike, you really have hit the nail on the head with that summary.
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Have listened to it about 10 times by now. I'm sort of underwhelmed, yet I cannot rate it any less than 8/10. They're just too good at what they do - they disappoint on a very high level. I guess they're stuck in their rut, and after the reunion was decided they cobbled together a release in a hurry, which produced some great moments musically/instrumentally, but ultimately lacks the kind of substance and inspiration which their masterpieces had in droves. Like BB King put it: "the thrill is gone".

The poorly done artwork does not help ... but then again, Hugh Syme has yet to do cover art that wows me. Using AI only adds insult to injury LOL
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Not my cup of tea. I respect them as artists/musicians, but their stuff doesn't appeal to me, including this song.
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

OK.... I'm quite sure the fault lies with me rather than DT, but it really didn't do that much for me. 

If I'm honest, I've not been really Wowed by a new DT album since Octavarium, so 20 years on that is no surprise; since then, I've just liked some more than others..

but this has left me quite cold... it just seems so predictable and formulaic; similar to previous material. But I'm not really expecting anything else of them.

As I say, the brick wall is mine more than theirs.

Perfectly sums up how I feel as well. At least The Astonishing was some attempt at doing something different.. ( I also love Octavarium as well)
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I only liked Petrucci's guitar. Mind you, not "guitars". I mean, his silvery guitar looks really cool.

Soulless non-songwriting, as usual. I couldn't be disinterested enough in their upcoming album (same was for the previous one, after listening to The Alien). Actually, I gradually had lost all my interest in their music after SfaM. And Octavarium marked my absolute apathy towards their music.

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OK.... I'm quite sure the fault lies with me rather than DT, but it really didn't do that much for me. 

If I'm honest, I've not been really Wowed by a new DT album since Octavarium, so 20 years on that is no surprise; since then, I've just liked some more than others..

but this has left me quite cold... it just seems so predictable and formulaic; similar to previous material. But I'm not really expecting anything else of them.

As I say, the brick wall is mine more than theirs.
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Not realizing that the thread already existed, I created a new one in the Prog Music Lounge subforum. I’ll share again what I said there:

When I saw that a new single had been released, I rushed to listen to it. Portnoy's return had really raised my expectations, but listening to the track was a hard blow. One generic riff after another, with LaBrie’s voice heavily processed (as has been happening for almost twenty years now) and solos with unnecessary shredding. In my opinion, this track is one of the most forgettable in the band's entire discography. That said, it’s just ten minutes out of the seventy the album will have (which will feature a new epic of almost twenty minutes)."
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^I've never heard the vinyl, but the CD (Distance Over Time) is one of the worst audio sonics I've ever heard. A shame as there is some good music but it's unlistenable.

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IMO they continue to severely skimp on engineers to mix and master their albums. Andy Snead mixed it and some guy named James "Jimmy T" Meslin Confused was the engineer. Of course Petrucci produced it........If this new record is compressed to hell then might be time to call it quits.
DT12 was a terrible record, flat no dynamics or resolution a total waste......
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Still can't hear Myung in the mix. At the guitar lead you hear him briefly.

Hi,

I was going to mention that ... the mix is not that good, mostly just the guitar and drums with the keyboards and bass showing up once in a while, and kinda strange that they STILL keep JM in the "background" as a bass player ... he probably would be more appreciated if he were shown a bit more in the mix and not buried half the time! Keeps me thinking that he is not really as good as he seems to be ... otherwise there would be no issues with the idea. Maybe there is no "variety" and too much of the same kind of sound and work that JP does ... which makes no room for anyone else to stand up and show something.

The keyboards, for my tastes, are still too much in the background, and I'm not sure they have as much freedom and expression as they could otherwise, but in the end, this is the P & P show ... still.

I would take the mixing out of JP's hands and I think it will sound a bit different, and not so much like everything this band ever has done, but ... it's not bad, though I'm not sure I will see it this time.

Nice, but not enough for me.


Edited by moshkito - October 11 2024 at 18:51
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Still can't hear Myung in the mix. At the guitar lead you hear him briefly.
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It's not bad.. but to my ears it's not sounding thats much different to anything they did on the last couple of albums. Jordan still seems stuck in "i'm just going to mirror everything John P does until it's time for my solo" mode lol

Hopefully the album has a little more variety in it compared to their last 3 or 4.
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