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I was born in 1975, so I was 

* An infant/toddler in the 70s
* in Kindergarten/elementary school in the 80s
* a teenager in the 90s

So my main decade is obviously the 90s. Even though I was already actively listening to music in the 80s, in retrospect they seem almost "prehistoric" to me, only by the end of the 80s I was starting to identify with contemporary music. From the 90s onwards I began to listen to the great rock releases of the 70s, as well as the whole NWOBHM. 
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Well, in the 80's, the early 70's were totally denigrated, seen as "passé" and uncool. In North Am, Hippies were replaced by Yuppies (often exactly the same age & generation), but Yuppies drove BMW - instead of worn-out VW Combis 
Of course the later-70's weren't, whether punk or Arena/corporate rock (AOR, if you wish), but also reggae and later funk... whatever floated the boat of MTV.

Throughout the '80s, I still had all my music from the '70s (on cassettes + 4 LPs), but I don't remember listening to any of it, even I probably did.

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I wish this forum had sub-threads so when you get multiple posts responding to a specific post, it would keep them all in order better.

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?


I think some have misunderstood the OP and just listed favorite 80s albums. 


Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?


LOL


Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


I'm surely cheered up, Hrychu. Thumbs Up



THE original post has since been edited (not sure what was changed), I had not thought that there were any pre-80s albums in David's list originally (now one), but I had interpreted this topic as albums from the 80s that you liked in the 80s and still like today. {EDIT: I had thought that I had read the original post carefully, but had neglected the rock expectation. Had the examples not been from the 80s of David's albums then I would have made different inferences when interpreting the the topic. We often learn "by example"}.

I became a teen in the 80s, and most of what I listened to in the 80s was from the 60s and 70s. My friends and I tended to play "classic rock" from the 60s and 70s like Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Crosby, Stills and Nash, Neil Young, Jethro Tull {EDIT: The Doors, Cream, Jimi Hendrix and Santana were some absolutes faves of mine in the 80s). A lot of other kids were more into newer stuff. I wish that I had discovered more 80s music in the 80s as I think it's a fantastic time for music. And much as i love much 60s and 70s music, I am more interested in sharing and finding out about people's 80s tastes in the 80s (helps to focus the topic for me). And 70s and 60s can feel stale to me since I had explored so very much yet I have been really turned on to plenty of 80s music in the last few years that sounds so fresh to me and incredible. I still do discover plenty of music from lots of decades, by the way.

That said, as an adult in the 90s, I had more opportunity to experience and enjoy live music.

By the way, people often misinterpret my intent even when I have gone to significant efforts to try to be clear (and sometimes misinterpret my jokes as mean-spirited when I don't tend to go for the kind of humour meant to insult, wound, belittle, or make fun of others.) It happens, no big deal. Hopefully we can still appreciate and demonstrate our appreciation for the efforts of people taking the time to respond to our topics even when they get it wrong (provided it's not snarky, condescending, complaining, deliberately rude...).

Edited by Logan - September 24 2024 at 10:54
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I was born in 70 so I really missed being into music in the 70s except for the Beatles who I was into around age 8. I got into top 40/pop music at around 11 1/2 in late 81 and finally got into rock in late 82. I was a a teenager in the 80s but by 1984 or so I was getting more into classic rock/prog and less into what was current at the time. I think Led Zeppelin was the first band who I got into who weren't current since they broke up about 3 or 4 years before I got into them. After that Yes then Genesis, King Crimson, Rush, Pink Floyd and others. I think the 90s is a better decade for music but the 80s were probably more "fun."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2024 at 10:46
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?


No, I listened to everything Tangerine Dream had released up to that point, with Rubycon, Stratosfear, Encore, Sorcerer and Force Majeure spending plenty of time in the player.

My favorite album by Vangelis back then was Albedo 0.39, which was released in 1976.

Oh, and Rush. Played them a lot.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

It took me a long time to properly appreciate Sade, I admit. But I now own a few of the Japanese reissues, so there's that. Diamond Life and Promise are brilliant. I remember when she toured fifteen years ago. Having missed that tour and knowing they probably never will again = major bummer.


What made the big diff between Sade and the rest of women-oriented pop is that Sade was a real band (stable line-up too) that took their singer's middle name as their band's name. I didn't know this back then, though, but obviously I'd subconsciously heard the difference and these guys had musicianship at least equal to Level 42 (but I never those dude's music).


Yes, Sade is the band's name, and I go out of my way to refer to their music and not her music, which confuses 9/10 people.

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

However, TBH, by their second album (TBH, only the debut is really interesting, IMHO), they'd said everything they had to say... the rest was more of the same.


Yes and no. They were kind of locked in, which is no doubt why the intervals between albums grew longer. They're very consistent but they had some fine songs on subsequent albums. The upbeat "Paradise" from Stronger than Pride became yet another concert highlight.

While the band was "resting" in the '90s, the three guys attempted a formula tweak with other vocalists (they called themselves Sweetback) and gained little momentum outside England.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

It took me a long time to properly appreciate Sade, I admit. But I now own a few of the Japanese reissues, so there's that. Diamond Life and Promise are brilliant. I remember when she toured fifteen years ago. Having missed that tour and knowing they probably never will again = major bummer.

Giorgio Moroder's score for The Cat People is fantastic and that's one I still listen to. The synth tones are gorgeous. The music is evocative and transporting. I dig the movie, too. The '80s was a swell time for electronic soundtracks (and movies, duh).

Midnight Oil's cool. I should listen to them more. Same for Gary Numan.


The 80s is so cool for music in the 80s. John Carpenter (I adore Escape From New York), Wendy Carlos for Tron....


TRON is fantastic, as is Carlos' official OOP release of Clockwork Orange (the entirely electronic version). I'm glad I have the CDs because Carlos orders all uploads to be taken down if they're not cover versions.

More of Carpenter's "killer" scores: Christine, The Fog and Prince of Darkness (probably my favorite).


Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

And now a couple of artists in PA who had work in the 80s that I loved in the 80s and still like: Kitaro and Vangelis.


Kitaro's early works are breathtaking. Ki, Astral Trip and Oasis blew me away way back when.
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Are Kitaro, Sade, and Vangelis rock?

I would like to mention there was a lot of good fusion in the 80s.

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^ Vangelis can rock (pretty eclectic artist).

The Dragon is so great.



And so can Kitaro rock, especially with Far East Family Band.

But see this from page one of this thread:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

EDIT: Sorry, forgot it was rock. I've never really been much of a rocker despite liking much music of the rock related or rock fusion variety. Anyway, at the least Midnight Oil would count. But then Sade is mentioned, and I had not thought of Sade as rock.


The Rock, I mean, is in a very broad sense. I coudn't think of a better term. Smile



I'd say that most of what has been mentioned is at least sufficient rock related enough for me.
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Rate Your Music doesn't tag Vangelis, Kitaro, or Sade as Rock. No big deal... It tags Holdsworth as progressive rock, and we played Holdsworth constantly IN the 80s.

This rocks...





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I prefer to look at the individual album labels. I would not say that Vangelis or Kitaro are primarily artists making rock music, far from it, but both have delved into those avenues (and incorporated rock elements).

the beauty of RYM to me is that it tags individual albums.

Vangelis' Earth from 1973 is tagged at RYM as primary labels as
Psychedelic Folk, Progressive Rock, Progressive Folk



Sounds like rock to me (and yeah, I do think Vangelis should be in a proper Prog category. And so good).

Vangelis' Heaven and Hell (1975) is tagged
Progressive Electronic, Symphonic Prog (and Neoclassical New Age, Zeuhl as secondary labels)

Vangelis' The Dragon (the one I specifically mentioned) is labelled       
Progressive Rock, Psychedelic Rock, Acid Rock (and Jam Band, Jazz-Rock as secpondary labels). More importantly, it clearly sounds like rock.

* To be fair, Vangelis was not pleased with The Dragon being released. Awesome album. Vangelis was more rock in the 70s, but then David said this is open to discussing pre-80s music as long as we liked it in the 80s.


For rock Kitaro, I would look to his involvement with Far East Family Band primarily (rather than under his own name, but rock comes into later music).

Anyway, to me I care more about whether I enjoy the music than how it's labelled, but labels are good for discovering music. I'm fine with David using a loose rock interpretation for this topic.





Rock or not, and I would not call it rock, I love early Kitaro albums. Oasis is what turned me into him. And his work with Far East Family band is excellent for my tastes.

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In the very early 80's i was listening to a very eclectic mix, from 60's/70's prog and US west coast through lots of 'free festival' Jam and space rock to NWOBPR (Neo prog) as well as stuff like Killing Joke, Magazine, Japan, XTC, Cocteau twins and punky stuff like Crass, Poison girls, the Slits and quite a bit of dub reggae. By the end of the 80's i was married then divorced so not listening to that much music for a while...

Not in any order:

Rush- all those 80's lps
Living colour- Vivid.. that lp ROCKED and still does
Eloy- Performance / metromania
Ozric Tentacles- Pungent Effulgent
Here & Now- Fantasy shift & Theatre
Talking Heads- remain in light and speaking in tongues

loads of others i cant just call to memory at this moment

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Ok this is what I liked IN the 80's and still enjoy (rock music only so no Kate Bush!)

Rush - Moving Pictures
The Police - Ghost In The Machine
IQ - The Wake
Marillion - Seasons End
Simple Minds - Sparkle In The Rain
Iron Maiden - Seventh son of seventh son
Al Stewart - The Last Days Of The Century
Eloy - Time To Turn
Siousxie and The Banshees - Kaleidoscope
Propaganda - A Secret Wish

(although my staple listening in the 80's was New Age, Synth, Oldfield etc as well as catching up with seventies prog)



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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Rate Your Music doesn't tag Vangelis, Kitaro, or Sade as Rock. No big deal... It tags Holdsworth as progressive rock, and we played Holdsworth constantly IN the 80s.

That's very fine. Smile

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Hopefully we can still appreciate and demonstrate our appreciation for the efforts of people taking the time to respond to our topics even when they get it wrong (provided it's not snarky, condescending, complaining, deliberately rude...).

When talking about myself and this thread, it's a long story but I think that all the posts here and in "my" former thread, Your top 15 progressive music albums IN the '70s?, speak for themselves.

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^ Whether we are talking the same thing or not: Nothing against the topics, I wouldn't have posted as much as I have if I did not find the threads or comments in it interesting to consider. Sometimes I have got disappointed about some responses in my topics, or that people don't seem to "get" it or play along as I expected, but then I can still be grateful with the effort of people who take the time to post. Not saying you should, I was really sharing a perspective for myself that seemed pertinent to me. I was even inspired enough by this topic to make one. I thought it was a very good topic and I support it. I also find lively topics (and good discussions) tend to take twists and turns, and can take on a life of their own, as this one has to whatever extent.
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I would like to mention there was a lot of good fusion in the 80s.

TBH, Fusion in the 80's either sounded to me either like Uzeb or lame near-ambient ECM stuff (didn't say I didn't like either, but that was too soft/smooth for my exuberant character). Holdsworth or McLaughlin fusions were unfortunately marred with these hateful synclavier gizmoThumbs Down that took the fire out of their guitar playing.Cry I'd say that in a generalization, even Fusion & Jazz sucked a bit during the 80's, as opposed to the brilliant and often fiery 70's.

The 80's were cool for some things to be a late-teen/young-adult (didn't complain about my Uni days), but not music. It's around the mid-80's that I started wishing I'd been born a decade earlier, to haver profited more of music (via radio exposure of would-be buddies) . I definitely preferred talking & partying with hippies than yuppies (who were more into coke) and the climate was different too. 
I'd originally planned my trip from Istanbul to Kabul/Katmandu  for 81 (between HS and Uni), but Iran & Afghanistan closed up in 79. Soooo, my buddy and I decided for an Andes raid from Caracas to Tierra Del Fuego instead. Thankfully we did it then, because a couple years later, the communist guerillas started making the roads more dangerous/riskier in the South American continent. Pinochet's Chile wasn't an issue, since we weren't making politics.

Don't get me wrong, though: I still played tons of 70's music, but usually only with me & my then-GFs present. And sometimes, I surprised some of my trendy buddies with "uncool music"Wink


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ Whether we are talking the same thing or not: Nothing against the topics, I wouldn't have posted as much as I have if I did not find the threads or comments in it interesting to consider. Sometimes I have got disappointed about some responses in my topics, or that people don't seem to "get" it or play along as I expected, but then I can still be grateful with the effort of people who take the time to post. Not saying you should, I was really sharing a perspective for myself that seemed pertinent to me. I was even inspired enough by this topic to make one. I thought it was a very good topic and I support it. I also find lively topics (and good discussions) tend to take twists and turns, and can take on a life of their own, as this one has to whatever extent.

I have to say that it's rather important to me that people follow my OPs. One can express criticism or different opinions, if having any, but if just not having sufficient interest in one of my topics, I prefer people to not participate. Smile


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The thing is that most of the 70's acts that survived the turn of the decade (prog or not *) didn't even make average (let's stay polite) albums, and really sailed much under/below their former altitude, including The Stones & The Who (who were 60's bands).

From 70's prog bands, only Crimson, Supertramp and Waters/Floyd and ELPowell, managed not to be sinking too low in terms of quality (OK, Tull's Knave was OK, but the restOuch.... )

*: except if you're into metal (Priest, Sabbath, Maiden, BÖC, Motorhead and Purple, Wishbone - to a lesser extent - , etc...), then the early 80's were still good, but as the decade unraveled... 



Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ Whether we are talking the same thing or not: Nothing against the topics, I wouldn't have posted as much as I have if I did not find the threads or comments in it interesting to consider. Sometimes I have got disappointed about some responses in my topics, or that people don't seem to "get" it or play along as I expected, but then I can still be grateful with the effort of people who take the time to post. Not saying you should, I was really sharing a perspective for myself that seemed pertinent to me. I was even inspired enough by this topic to make one. I thought it was a very good topic and I support it. I also find lively topics (and good discussions) tend to take twists and turns, and can take on a life of their own, as this one has to whatever extent.

I didn't see that one... probably escaped my radar.
can you fingerpoint me to it, please?Smile


I thought that David's goal in these two threads were good, but I may have misread his OP - maybe it was not obvious enough to me (and maybe others, since David is disollusioned by the results. 


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The topic is difficult to handle for most people, including myself. To remember accurately what I listened to about 40 years ago, as a child, is next to impossible. So I approximated the answer as best I could Smile
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