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THE WHO: Tommy vs Quadrophenia

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Poll Question: Which is the better album?
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    Posted: December 13 2022 at 17:40
Let's focus solely on the original albums, not the movies, the stage shows, the tours, the revivals, etc. Any comments about what influenced your decision would be appreciated.
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Man ! You just had to leave the BOTH option off, didn't you. Unhappy
So be it !

I'm all in on Quadrophenia.
Much more relatable in content and music in my opinion. Plus, the background effects, like the sea, the tea kettle and the TV are simply sublime.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2022 at 20:57
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Man ! You just had to leave the BOTH option off, didn't you. Unhappy
So be it !

I'm all in on Quadrophenia.
Much more relatable in content and music in my opinion. Plus, the background effects, like the sea, the tea kettle and the TV are simply sublime.


That seems to be my thing. Not many others have followed in my footsteps it seems. Oh well.

Anyway, I'm not familiar enough with Quadrophenia to vote. I have Tommy but I find it overall to be just ok. It's one of those many double albums that would have been a really great single. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Wyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2024 at 17:15
Only 7 votes? Considering the immense popularity of the Sgt. Pepper vs Abbey Road thread, I'm reviving this!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Valdez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2024 at 17:43
Tommy was the bomb when it came out. It’s dated now, so Quadrophenia for me now.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2024 at 20:40
Quadraphenia gets my vote!  I saw The Who perform this in concert in Chicago (1 November 1996), the Ox was still with us, and the show was drop-dead amazing!!  
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Not a massive Who fan at all, but Quadrophenia gets my vote. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2024 at 03:51
Both great albums, but somehow I get back to Tommy more often than to Q. Maybe because Tommy was the first album by The Who that I listened in full; Quadrophenia came much later to my ears and it didn't have the same impact...


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I'm Free to choose, so it has to be Tommy. Smile

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Hi,

I keep thinking that time has not been kind to "Tommy" ... specially with a movie on it that makes the whole thing seem stupid and overblown ... and bizarre. By comparison, "Quadrophenia" seems more controlled and complete and stands up much better from beginning to the end. As much as I liked "Tommy", and got the album almost immediately, the years have not been kind to it, and that film, pretty much ruins the whole thing for me. Heck, at least Roger Ruskin Spears' take on Pinball Wizard is a compliment, compared to what ended up in the movie.

It's not exactly a surprise, since Ken Russell had (by that time) done many films about music and a few artists, and all in all? ... it followed the standard those days about rock music, not being serious music!

Now you know what Frank Zappa and many others were fighting ... but I think the film helped ruin the "psychedelic" days, and the whole "scene" of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. Made the media happy ... putting down another rock this or that to ensure the 60's died with a severe thrashing.


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I've listened to Tommy loads of times since the early '70s, while Quadrophenia is a newer acquaintance of mine, even I got it first time in the '90s. 
I think anyway, I find them today to be about equally good, but Tommy a better achievement for the time of its release.






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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2024 at 05:41
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


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 I find them today to be about equally good, but Tommy a better achievement for the time of its release.


Hi,

Very true, since just using the term rock opera made a lot of folks go .... what? .... no way. Hearing it THEN, I never thought of it as a rock opera at all ... and it would have helped make it a more important work if The Who, had toured the whole thing, instead of just doing parts of it. With a properly designed stage, this could have been done well, and make Genesis look silly years later! I always thought they obviously did not think much of their rock opera, except the idea of making rock/pop folks think that this was better and more important.

I don't find it as good an "opera" these days, but I will accept it as a "concept" album. 
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While the proggier tracks (Underture, Overture) of Tommy are proggier than Quad's , I think on the whole, Quadro is much better. 

Of course, without Tommy's existence & success, no Quadrophenia.
Oddly enough, The Who had much more mileage from Tommy than Quadro (which they didn't tour much or for long)

As for the movies, I love Quad, but dislike most of Tommy


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Tommy.  I like the movie soundtrack best.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Wyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2024 at 10:34
Here's something I posted on a completely different, long-lost thread about these two albums:

Tommy spells out everything far more explicitly. Quadrophenia's story is much more implicit and impressionistic.

I think a lot of Quadrophenia's story remained in Townshend's head and couldn't be expressed in words and music, making the album far more open to personal interpretation. This is why I've always preferred it to Tommy. Those of us who were never anywhere close to the mid-1960s Mod scene could still relate to the overall concept of teenage alienation and disillusionment. Tommy is about revolution, while Quadrophenia about watching the idea of revolution recede into the past.
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Quadrophenia.
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Quadrophenia. It's simply a better album than Tommy.
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