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nacho
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 13:43 |
WiguJimbo wrote:
I agree with you hdfisch, knowing that there are children here (including me!) that might be open for such suggestions, this is not the appropriate place to discuss drugs or how magnificent they can be. I mostly try to ignore that thread. |
This is completely out of topic, but you are the very first person I know that being almost 18 (in a few days, according to your profile) defines himself as a child...
I had done a lot of forbidden things at your age, but yes, I have to tell you that it's better for you to stay away from them...
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Jimbo
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 13:32 |
I agree with you hdfisch, knowing that there are children here
(including me!) that might be open for such suggestions, this is not
the appropriate place to discuss drugs or how magnificent they can be.
I mostly try to ignore that thread.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 12:13 |
hdfisch wrote:
Quite ridiculous responses I've to say, but ok I see this is obviously not the right place to say something against drugs!
Snowdog: I haven't read Maani's name anywhere on this thread as a poster!!!
nacho:Whether using or abusing, drugs ain't good in any way in my opinion!
Gentle Ronnie: As a collaborator I feel responsible to look at any thread whether I like it or not just to know what's going on!
BaldFriede: This is a quite stupid attitude, of course anything could be as well lethal if over-dosed, like distilled water can be toxic. So in your opinion even in case of heroin or similar "hard drugs" it just depends on the dose. And of course you could control this really perfectly?
I guess the posters here are stoned anyway!
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Perhaps I'm mistaken then.I must be thinking of another thread!
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bluetailfly
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 12:00 |
hdfisch wrote:
bluetailfly:
Okay I'm not an expert on drugs and probably so are most of the posters in this thread. Moreover I give a f*****g s**t what government and especially church are saying, it's just my own feeling of responsiveness. And in my opinion there isn't something like non-dangerous drugs, including nicotin and alcohol. Maybe Canabis (that's probably the one most people have in mind) is less dangerous than these two legal ones at least as long it's not being abused, but still I would not consider it as harmless. And lastly I found the question of the topic alone provoking. If it would have been something like: Which Prog music is fitting best with smoking weed? I'd have found it only funny, but saying generally "drugs" which can be anything up to heroin I don't find appropriate here, sorry! I don't like to be a preacher and I don't mind smoking a pipe or similar everynow and then but I would't go to the public and say "hey folks when you listen to xy music you should take this or that"! Certainly no one is doing that here directly but it is somehow implied in the topic!
Just my opinion!Peace
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Thanks for the clarification. My response at this point then is, why are you worried about it? Everyone here is a big boy or girl and I don't see anyone here trying to hurt anyone else.
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hdfisch
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 11:52 |
bluetailfly:
Okay I'm not an expert on drugs and probably so are most of the posters in this thread. Moreover I give a f*****g s**t what government and especially church are saying, it's just my own feeling of responsiveness. And in my opinion there isn't something like non-dangerous drugs, including nicotin and alcohol. Maybe Canabis (that's probably the one most people have in mind) is less dangerous than these two legal ones at least as long it's not being abused, but still I would not consider it as harmless. And lastly I found the question of the topic alone provoking. If it would have been something like: Which Prog music is fitting best with smoking weed? I'd have found it only funny, but saying generally "drugs" which can be anything up to heroin I don't find appropriate here, sorry! I don't like to be a preacher and I don't mind smoking a pipe or similar everynow and then but I would't go to the public and say "hey folks when you listen to xy music you should take this or that"! Certainly no one is doing that here directly but it is somehow implied in the topic!
Just my opinion!Peace
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bluetailfly
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 11:28 |
hdfisch wrote:
Quite ridiculous responses I've to say, but ok I see this is obviously not the right place to say something against drugs!
Snowdog: I haven't read Maani's name anywhere on this thread as a poster!!!
nacho:Whether using or abusing, drugs ain't good in any way in my opinion!
Gentle Ronnie: As a collaborator I feel responsible to look at any thread whether I like it or not just to know what's going on!
BaldFriede: This is a quite stupid attitude, of course anything could be as well lethal if over-dosed, like distilled water can be toxic. So in your opinion even in case of heroin or similar "hard drugs" it just depends on the dose. And of course you could control this really perfectly?
I guess the posters here are stoned anyway!
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Hdfisch:
I respect what you're saying but your approach is rather ignorant. Maybe you should ask yourself, "what is a dangerous drug?" instead of relying on the church's/parents/government's definition. If the thread had been "What types of liquor do you drink when you listen to Prog", I don't think you would have thought twice about it.
But someone says the words "drugs" and all of a sudden, your buttons are pushed. There are gradations of drugs, from sugar to pot to liquor to crack and beyond. So for you to have this self-righteous attitude about all drugs is rather offensive when you don't know what you're talking about.
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nacho
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 11:15 |
hdfisch wrote:
nacho:Whether using or abusing, drugs ain't good in any way in my opinion!
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So I guess you never drink a coffee in the morning to help you wake up...
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hdfisch
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 11:10 |
Quite ridiculous responses I've to say, but ok I see this is obviously not the right place to say something against drugs!
Snowdog: I haven't read Maani's name anywhere on this thread as a poster!!!
nacho:Whether using or abusing, drugs ain't good in any way in my opinion!
Gentle Ronnie: As a collaborator I feel responsible to look at any thread whether I like it or not just to know what's going on!
BaldFriede: This is a quite stupid attitude, of course anything could be as well lethal if over-dosed, like distilled water can be toxic. So in your opinion even in case of heroin or similar "hard drugs" it just depends on the dose. And of course you could control this really perfectly?
I guess the posters here are stoned anyway!
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 09:51 |
As mentioned in another post: Anything that can be imbibed is a drug; it all depends on the dose. You might get a high from eating 20 pounds of potatoes (more probably a low though).
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Gentle Ronnie
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 09:48 |
Nobody forces you to use drugs. If you don't like the thread, don't look at it.
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Although I do agree that such discussions are no way normal, knowing that children post here too.
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nacho
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 09:33 |
I think the thread is about drug use, no abuse...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 08:25 |
hdfisch wrote:
But just the topic of the thread alone is implying the suggestion to use drugs for certain type of music! And what is even more frightening that this one is the most popular thread. I think this fact doesn't cast a very good light on our site! Where are the moderators? |
Well one of them, Maani, has posted in the thread itself! So he obviously doesn't agree with you!
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hdfisch
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 08:21 |
But just the topic of the thread alone is implying the suggestion to use drugs for certain type of music! And what is even more frightening that this one is the most popular thread. I think this fact doesn't cast a very good light on our site! Where are the moderators?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 08:17 |
No ones advocating, we are discussing!
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hdfisch
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 08:15 |
I just realized there is a thread were some members are advocating drug abuse.Should this not be removed?
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